The Exchange takeover, stealth Mailscanner, SPF, and other thoughts. Subj was: Re: help me

[Martin Hepworth]

Was in a similar position two years ago.....they are struggling along with
the similar issues, suddenly spending HUGE amounts on IT etc


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Martin Hepworth
Oxford, UK


On 19 October 2010 14:00, Peter Farrow <peter at farrows.org> wrote:

>  On 19/10/2010 13:43, Nigel Kendrick wrote:
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>  Reply below
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> *From:* mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [
> mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info<mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info>]
> *On Behalf Of *Alex Crow
> *Sent:* 15 October 2010 17:25
> *To:* mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> *Subject:* The Exchange takeover, stealth Mailscanner, SPF, and other
> thoughts. Subj was: Re: help me
>
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> Martin,
>
> However that might not play out quite as well as just letting them shoot
> themselves in the foot - if you put a "stealth" MS box in front of Exchange,
> then management would just think that the Microsoft stuff did just as well
> as the old Linux software. It might be better to explain it should be tested
> with and without the Mailscanner solution as a comparison. However if Nigel
> is leaving, why not just let them fight their own war!
>
>  --> Yes, they can make their own plans now.
>
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>
> Nigel, I presumed you pointed out that in addition to the £16k for exchange
> they would need something to stem the spam-flow, and given their need for "a
> throat to squeeze" (the usual reason) it would probably be commercial?
>
>  --> Company motto seems to be “If there’s two comparable ways to do
> something, pick the most expensive.”  As well as the email fiasco...
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>
>   1)  They are currently ripping out our ADSL lines/VPNs to replace them
> with a BT managed ‘cloud’ system.  Not only are the links more expensive and
> in some cases slower (we have some sites running 20Mbit/2.5Mbit LLU that are
> going back to 8Mbit/883K), but they have to pay an annual support charge and
> submit a request for any router config changes.
>
>
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> 2) They need to ‘move’ a central server to from my offices to their HQ – so
> they buy a second, identical server (Dell 6850 rackmount with 4 Quad core
> Pentiums, 16GB RAM and 300GB RAID 5 SAS (3 disks)) and someone is going to
> do a data dump this weekend and drive it up. There would be no problems with
> the downtime, but for some reason I have no inclination of questioning, they
> aren’t just going to backup this server, shut it down and take it with them.
>
>
> [Snip]
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> Cheers
>
> Alex
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>   Obviously they have cash to burn, and the BT "cloud" they are selling at
> 8M/832k is based on the ANCIENT ipstream technology which forms the original
> ADSL1.0 offering in the UK 10 years ago.  Your LLU services are based on
> ADSL2+ so you are going to be taking a HUGE step backwards and paying
> handsomely for the "privilege".
>
> I very much hope they are fluent in punjabi-english and don't want anything
> done properly or quickly, because when you need a change you'll be speaking
> to someone on the sub continent who doesn't even know where London is.
>
> This is a laughable, and its usually based on some empire-building moron
> stacking up responsibility in his own office at the companies expense and at
> the expense of performance and progress....
>
> Time to leave...  as your counterparts shovel £50 notes on the fire to keep
> warm....
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