RBLS

[Alex Crow]

I'd not use spamcop in an MTA. Too unreliable for an outright reject as 
it's based on their users' opinions of what is SPAM and what is not. 
Unsurprisingly a lot of IPs are blacklisted in SpamCop just because 
someone signed up for the service, subscribed to something, and then 
instead of addressing that problem reported it to SpamCop,

Zen and Sorbs will kill a lot, add greylisting and rejecting mail for 
unknown users and it's as good as Gmail for spamlessness.

We tried it and had a lot of customer complaints so now we just use it 
for a moderate + score in MS.

Cheers


On 14/05/14 17:29, Philip Parsons wrote:
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> Actually the original question was if you use them which ones do you 
> use ? and have had the greatest success with.   Hahaha I also said I 
> did not want to kick off the discussion again which has gone through 
> the list many many times...
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> I am just looking for some suggestions to what lists to use.
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> *From:*mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info 
> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] *On Behalf Of 
> *Terry Hulen Jr
> *Sent:* May-14-14 6:25 AM
> *To:* MailScanner discussion
> *Subject:* Re: RBLS
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> I do not believe that anyone is wrong in this thread.  I have ~3-5 
> DNSBLs that I use.  All of these are utilized at the MTA and I also 
> use Greylisting.  I am using postfix as my MTA.
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> With all of that being said...
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> The poster's original question was if I used RBLs with MS, the answer 
> is that I have never needed to.  I save machine resources by catching 
> the offenders early in the process and if they cannot make it past the 
> MTA, they cannot get to MS anyway.
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Peter Farrow <peter at farrows.org 
> <mailto:peter at farrows.org>> wrote:
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>     I have to agree with Jonas...  I have about 6 Blacklists I
>     routinely use...
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>     P.
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>     On 14/05/2014 09:59, Jonas Akrouh Larsen wrote:
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>             One thing to keep in mind with RBLs, are DNS queries. It is not recommended
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>             to use public DNS servers. (Google/open dns) Run
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>             bind/named/dnsmasq/tinydns locally. Also, you won't really gain anything by
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>             having too many RBLs .. You'll just up the processing time and queries.
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>         This part I do not agree with. Unless you think all RBL's contains more or less the same IP's, its pretty obvious that your protection improves with more RBL's.
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>         Also unless you have resource contention in regards to multiple threads, the slowness RBL's introduce doesn't matter, and the system is just waiting for a response from the network, which almost doesn't consume any system resources.
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>         Personally I have RBL's in both the MTA and in mailscanner. In the MTA I greylist based on a few very trustworthy RBL's and in mailscanner I score based on ohh I don't know 10-20 RBL's. It allows you to have a much more fine-tuned system instead of blocking based on a single RBL at the SMTP level.
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>         The advantage of having them in mailscanner is mainly that you can whitelist senders, the disadvantage is that senders aren't told that they are listed (but since all the RBL's I use are public db's used in thousands of systesm I trust somebody else will let them know soon enough :) )
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