Negative SA score reported in subject line

[Martin Vlach]

Martin Hepworth:

Thanks for your suggestion. I do indeed use
RBLs directly - it seemed to make a lot of
sense when I got MailScanner, and the relationship
between RBL checking in MailScanner and in
SpamAssassin is not obvious when one is just
starting.

However, this does not answer the question of why
a *negative* score would be reported on the subject line;
or else I don't understand the concept of scoring
and reporting.

Any more suggestions on how to turn off the *reporting*?
Or would you suggest that I turn off RBL checking
in MailScanner completely?

Am I wasting resources by having the following in my setup?

My MailScanner.conf has:

Spam Checks = yes
Spam List = spamhaus-ZEN NJABL
Spam Domain List = SORBS-DNSBL SORBS-SPAM
Spam Lists To Be Spam = 1
Spam Lists To Reach High Score = 2

And in spam.assassin.prefs.conf I have

ifplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Pyzor
pyzor_path /usr/bin/pyzor
pyzor_options --homedir /etc/mail/spamassassin
endif

ifplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC
dcc_path /usr/local/bin/dccproc
endif

Thanks!
Martin Vlach

Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 11:46:33 -0400
From: Dave Filchak <submit at zuka.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Negative SA score reported in subject line
To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
Message-ID: <4BFBF0D9.50309 at zuka.net>
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Sorry ... did I miss something? I am not supposed to refer/use RBL 
directly in MailScanner?

On 22/07/64 2:59 PM, Martin Hepworth wrote:
> Check that you're not using RBL's directly in MailScanner. That will 
> trigger it as 'spam' and therefore tag the subject etc.
>
> Martin
>
> On 24 May 2010 23:02, Martin Vlach <martin at vlach.us 
> <mailto:martin at vlach.us>> wrote:
>
>     I have the following configuration set for MailScanner 4.78.17-1:
>
>     Required SpamAssassin Score     4
>     High SpamAssassin Score         8
>     Spam Modify Subject             start
>     Spam Subject Text                       {Spam _SCORE_}
>
>     The problem:
>     negative scores are reported to users in their Subject Line. They
>     see scores
>     -1 through -4.
>
>     I am fine with the scores themselves; the problem is that they are
>     reported.
>     I assume that any scores below 4 should not modify the subject line.
>
>     I've searched many places (google, faqs, documentation), but can't
>     find
>     anything.
>     I would like suggestions on the best approach to fix this problem
>     for our
>     users.
>
>     Thx, Martin
>
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Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 17:02:20 +0100
From: Martin Hepworth <maxsec at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Negative SA score reported in subject line
To: MailScanner discussion <mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
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I find most people do the RBL's either at the front end and smtp reject, or
withing SA so they add to the score. With MS you can use multiple RBL's and
one trigger spam if more than X agree (where X >=1, default value is 1).



On 25 May 2010 16:46, Dave Filchak <submit at zuka.net> wrote:

>  Sorry ... did I miss something? I am not supposed to refer/use RBL
> directly in MailScanner?
>
>
> On 22/07/64 2:59 PM, Martin Hepworth wrote:
>
> Check that you're not using RBL's directly in MailScanner. That will
> trigger it as 'spam' and therefore tag the subject etc.
>
> Martin
>
> On 24 May 2010 23:02, Martin Vlach <martin at vlach.us> wrote:
>
>> I have the following configuration set for MailScanner 4.78.17-1:
>>
>> Required SpamAssassin Score     4
>> High SpamAssassin Score         8
>> Spam Modify Subject             start
>> Spam Subject Text                       {Spam _SCORE_}
>>
>> The problem:
>> negative scores are reported to users in their Subject Line. They see
>> scores
>> -1 through -4.
>>
>> I am fine with the scores themselves; the problem is that they are
>> reported.
>> I assume that any scores below 4 should not modify the subject line.
>>
>> I've searched many places (google, faqs, documentation), but can't find
>> anything.
>> I would like suggestions on the best approach to fix this problem for our
>> users.
>>
>> Thx, Martin
>>
>> --
>> MailScanner mailing list
>> mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
>> http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner
>>
>> Before posting, read http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting
>>
>> Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Martin Hepworth
> Oxford, UK