wiki still suggesting ordb

[Laramie Combs]

Julian Field wrote:
>
>
> Scott Silva wrote:
>> on 3-31-2008 6:10 AM Julian Field spake the following:
>>> Thanks for that. Fixed the problem now. Hopefully other people can 
>>> edit the page too.
>>>
>>> shuttlebox wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Julian Field
>>>> <MailScanner at ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>>  I've fixed the perms as much as I can (currently everything is world
>>>>>  writable) and it still complains.
>>>>>  Damn wikis :-(
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> I found this:
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:acl
>>>>
>>>> Maybe its of some help.
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>
>>> Jules
>>>
>> Looks to be working now, but the edit now points to a soon to be 
>> obsolete since spamhaus recommends to use zen instead of sbl+xbl.
>>
> Didn't know that one. Fixed.
> I've changed the default shipped MailScanner.conf file so it uses 
> spamhaus-ZEN by default.
> That should be okay for a new installation shouldn't it?
> I'll add a note saying that they shouldn't use spamhaus lists unless 
> they are a low-volume site or they have paid for a direct feed.
>
> Does that sound okay?
>
> Jules
>
My 2 cents worth says that I don't like zen because it includes the PBL, 
which has gotten us into hot water in the past.  There is a discalimer 
on their site that says

"Caution: Because the PBL lists normal customer IP space, do not use PBL 
on smarthosts or SMTP AUTH outbound servers for your own customers (or 
you risk blocking your own customers if their dynamic IPs are in the 
PBL). Do not use PBL in filters that do any ‘deep parsing’ of Received 
headers, or for other than checking IP addresses that hand off to your 
mailservers."

This was the case for us, as these same boxes do in and outbound 
traffic, and caused us to start marking our own mail.  Dropping back to 
sbl-xbl fixed it for us.

-Laramie