O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam

[Alex Neuman van der Hans]

Ken A wrote:
> Randal, Phil wrote:
>> Why the heck are end users installing software on their PCs?
>>
>> This is best dealt with by appropriate "conditions of use" policies
>> backed up by management who are not scared to invoke disciplinary
>> procedures.
> 
> I'd love to slap our users around once in a while, but we're an ISP, so 
> they slap us around more often, but it does pay the bills. :-)
> Ken

But ISP's all over the world have "redirected" such "e-mails" to a 
special folder called /dev/null since the dawn of time! :-)
> 
> 
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil
>>
>> -- 
>> Phil Randal
>> Network Engineer
>> Herefordshire Council
>> Hereford, UK 
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>>> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Ken A
>>> Sent: 26 October 2007 15:35
>>> To: MailScanner discussion
>>> Subject: Re: O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam
>>>
>>> Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
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>>>> Ken A wrote:
>>>>> How do you all deal with this C/R stuff, when it's one of 
>>> your customers
>>>>> using it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Choicemail is some kind of outlook plugin that bounces 
>>> back all mail -
>>>>> doing the usual C/R thing - but directly from the MUA.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess it's time to re-write the anti-spam policy one 
>>> more time to rule
>>>>> out any kind of spam bouncing.
>>>>>
>>>>> How have you dealt with this? Do you filter outgoing mail 
>>> that is from
>>>>> this sort of software (choicemail, mailwasher, etc..) ?
>>>> MUA's are suposed to talk to the MTA's only. Anything else and the
>>>> firewall gets real cranky.
>>>>
>>> good firewalls make good neighbors, yes.. I guess I didn't explain it 
>>> properly. choicemail is a plugin or add-on that simply auto-responds 
>>> to all email with a challenge that directs senders to a link on the 
>>> choicemail website. The mail goes out through the MTA (us). But this 
>>> this is a different architecture than other C/R systems that are 
>>> responsible for their own outgoing mail. Instead of a proxy, or a 
>>> separate MX that filters and does the C/R, WE ARE NOW sending this 
>>> junk out through our MTAs.
>>>
>>> So, we're putting a stop to it, but I just wondered if anyone out 
>>> there had experienced the crossfire of choicemail or other crapware 
>>> that auto bounces everything or nearly everything, and what you did 
>>> to deal with it.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hugo.
>>>>
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>>>>     A: Yes.
>>>>     >Q: Are you sure?
>>>>     >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>>     >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
>>>>
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>>> Ken Anderson
>>> Pacific.Net
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