O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam

[Ken A]

Randal, Phil wrote:
> Why the heck are end users installing software on their PCs?
> 
> This is best dealt with by appropriate "conditions of use" policies
> backed up by management who are not scared to invoke disciplinary
> procedures.

I'd love to slap our users around once in a while, but we're an ISP, so 
they slap us around more often, but it does pay the bills. :-)
Ken


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Phil
> 
> --
> Phil Randal
> Network Engineer
> Herefordshire Council
> Hereford, UK  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info 
>> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Ken A
>> Sent: 26 October 2007 15:35
>> To: MailScanner discussion
>> Subject: Re: O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam
>>
>> Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
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>>> Ken A wrote:
>>>> How do you all deal with this C/R stuff, when it's one of 
>> your customers
>>>> using it?
>>>>
>>>> Choicemail is some kind of outlook plugin that bounces 
>> back all mail -
>>>> doing the usual C/R thing - but directly from the MUA.
>>>>
>>>> I guess it's time to re-write the anti-spam policy one 
>> more time to rule
>>>> out any kind of spam bouncing.
>>>>
>>>> How have you dealt with this? Do you filter outgoing mail 
>> that is from
>>>> this sort of software (choicemail, mailwasher, etc..) ?
>>> MUA's are suposed to talk to the MTA's only. Anything else and the
>>> firewall gets real cranky.
>>>
>> good firewalls make good neighbors, yes.. I guess I didn't explain it 
>> properly. choicemail is a plugin or add-on that simply 
>> auto-responds to 
>> all email with a challenge that directs senders to a link on the 
>> choicemail website. The mail goes out through the MTA (us). But this 
>> this is a different architecture than other C/R systems that are 
>> responsible for their own outgoing mail. Instead of a proxy, or a 
>> separate MX that filters and does the C/R, WE ARE NOW sending 
>> this junk 
>> out through our MTAs.
>>
>> So, we're putting a stop to it, but I just wondered if anyone 
>> out there 
>> had experienced the crossfire of choicemail or other crapware 
>> that auto 
>> bounces everything or nearly everything, and what you did to 
>> deal with it.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>> Hugo.
>>>
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>>> 	A: Yes.
>>> 	>Q: Are you sure?
>>> 	>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>> 	>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
>>>
>>> Bored? Click on http://spamornot.org/ and rate those images.
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