O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam

[Randal, Phil]

Why the heck are end users installing software on their PCs?

This is best dealt with by appropriate "conditions of use" policies
backed up by management who are not scared to invoke disciplinary
procedures.

Cheers,

Phil

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Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

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> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Ken A
> Sent: 26 October 2007 15:35
> To: MailScanner discussion
> Subject: Re: O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam
> 
> Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
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> > Ken A wrote:
> >> How do you all deal with this C/R stuff, when it's one of 
> your customers
> >> using it?
> >>
> >> Choicemail is some kind of outlook plugin that bounces 
> back all mail -
> >> doing the usual C/R thing - but directly from the MUA.
> >>
> >> I guess it's time to re-write the anti-spam policy one 
> more time to rule
> >> out any kind of spam bouncing.
> >>
> >> How have you dealt with this? Do you filter outgoing mail 
> that is from
> >> this sort of software (choicemail, mailwasher, etc..) ?
> > 
> > MUA's are suposed to talk to the MTA's only. Anything else and the
> > firewall gets real cranky.
> > 
> 
> good firewalls make good neighbors, yes.. I guess I didn't explain it 
> properly. choicemail is a plugin or add-on that simply 
> auto-responds to 
> all email with a challenge that directs senders to a link on the 
> choicemail website. The mail goes out through the MTA (us). But this 
> this is a different architecture than other C/R systems that are 
> responsible for their own outgoing mail. Instead of a proxy, or a 
> separate MX that filters and does the C/R, WE ARE NOW sending 
> this junk 
> out through our MTAs.
> 
> So, we're putting a stop to it, but I just wondered if anyone 
> out there 
> had experienced the crossfire of choicemail or other crapware 
> that auto 
> bounces everything or nearly everything, and what you did to 
> deal with it.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> > Hugo.
> > 
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> > 	A: Yes.
> > 	>Q: Are you sure?
> > 	>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
> > 	>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
> > 
> > Bored? Click on http://spamornot.org/ and rate those images.
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