O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam

[Ken A]

Alex Neuman van der Hans wrote:
> Ken A wrote:
>> Randal, Phil wrote:
>>> Why the heck are end users installing software on their PCs?
>>>
>>> This is best dealt with by appropriate "conditions of use" policies
>>> backed up by management who are not scared to invoke disciplinary
>>> procedures.
>>
>> I'd love to slap our users around once in a while, but we're an ISP, 
>> so they slap us around more often, but it does pay the bills. :-)
>> Ken
> 
> But ISP's all over the world have "redirected" such "e-mails" to a 
> special folder called /dev/null since the dawn of time! :-)

But my coworker Devlin Null would never cop to that on a public mailing 
list ;-)
Ken

>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Phil Randal
>>> Network Engineer
>>> Herefordshire Council
>>> Hereford, UK
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info 
>>>> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Ken A
>>>> Sent: 26 October 2007 15:35
>>>> To: MailScanner discussion
>>>> Subject: Re: O.T. question - how to deal with choicemail c/r spam
>>>>
>>>> Hugo van der Kooij wrote:
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>>>>> Ken A wrote:
>>>>>> How do you all deal with this C/R stuff, when it's one of 
>>>> your customers
>>>>>> using it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Choicemail is some kind of outlook plugin that bounces 
>>>> back all mail -
>>>>>> doing the usual C/R thing - but directly from the MUA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess it's time to re-write the anti-spam policy one 
>>>> more time to rule
>>>>>> out any kind of spam bouncing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How have you dealt with this? Do you filter outgoing mail 
>>>> that is from
>>>>>> this sort of software (choicemail, mailwasher, etc..) ?
>>>>> MUA's are suposed to talk to the MTA's only. Anything else and the
>>>>> firewall gets real cranky.
>>>>>
>>>> good firewalls make good neighbors, yes.. I guess I didn't explain 
>>>> it properly. choicemail is a plugin or add-on that simply 
>>>> auto-responds to all email with a challenge that directs senders to 
>>>> a link on the choicemail website. The mail goes out through the MTA 
>>>> (us). But this this is a different architecture than other C/R 
>>>> systems that are responsible for their own outgoing mail. Instead of 
>>>> a proxy, or a separate MX that filters and does the C/R, WE ARE NOW 
>>>> sending this junk out through our MTAs.
>>>>
>>>> So, we're putting a stop to it, but I just wondered if anyone out 
>>>> there had experienced the crossfire of choicemail or other crapware 
>>>> that auto bounces everything or nearly everything, and what you did 
>>>> to deal with it.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hugo.
>>>>>
>>>>> - --
>>>>> hvdkooij at vanderkooij.org               http://hugo.vanderkooij.org/
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>>>>>     A: Yes.
>>>>>     >Q: Are you sure?
>>>>>     >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>>>     >>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
>>>>>
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