IP address reputation, BorderWare

DAve dave.list at pixelhammer.com
Thu Mar 29 20:05:05 CEST 2007

Chris Yuzik wrote:
> Rick Chadderdon wrote:
>> Chris Yuzik wrote:
>>> Rick,
>>> I've been thinking about this issue at length, and agree that it is a 
>>> complex one.
>>> <soapbox>
>>> After much analysis, I consider responding to incoming SAV lookups on 
>>> our end to simply be part of the deal with hosting a domain, much as 
>>> is responding to DNS queries about the domain, subdomains, etc. As 
>>> host to a domain, I believe it is my server's responsibility to 
>>> answer queries regarding SAV, in an effort to defend a domain name's 
>>> reputation including that of the company behind the domain name.
>>> </soapbox>
>> And I respect your decision to accept that responsibility.  I would 
>> also do so quite willingly if it was a normal part of a mail server's 
>> load, or even an option that most MTAs came with by default.  Hm.  Is 
>> it?  Postfix does.  What about the other big ones?  Which ones 
>> do/don't?  Addons and milters don't count.
>>> If your server gets spam allegedly from my domain, please, by all 
>>> means, do whatever you can to ensure that the mail really did 
>>> originate from us before letting it in to your user's inboxes, 
>>> including SAV.
>> I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable using SAV, even if it does turn 
>> out to exist in most MTAs.  But thanks for your kind permission.  :)
>> Rick
> Rick,
> Although we apparently see this issue from two opposing sides, I really 
> appreciate hearing your perspective. I'm not sure if anyone's opinion or 
> actions were changed one way or the other as a result of the 
> conversation, but a good debate is always useful, IMHO. And in the end, 
> we wear hats of the same colour and continue our battle against the dark 
> side.
> Here's to continuing the good fight!
> Cheers,
> Chris

Agreed. I've enjoyed the civil discussion on SAV, civil discussions are 
so rare on MTA lists. I am better prepared to make a judgment for or 
against using it in the future because of this thread.

Thank you both.


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in nice clothes and everyone else is wearing jeans and a tee shirt?!"

My unemployed son.....

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