Spamhaus replacement

Scott Silva ssilva at
Tue Dec 4 23:55:15 GMT 2007

on 12/4/2007 3:11 PM Hugo van der Kooij spake the following:
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> Scott Silva wrote:
>> on 12/4/2007 6:36 AM Randal, Phil spake the following:
>>> ram wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 09:25 +0700, Budi Febrianto wrote:
>>>>> Right now we only use and happy so far, 
>>>> but because
>>>>> spamhaus is not free anymore, now I want some 
>>>> recommendation for others
>>>>> dnsbl.
>>>> But spamhaus offers free data sync AFAIK if you are using it for your
>>>> own domain and not selling antispam solution
>>>> You just need to sign up with them 
>>> "Use of the Spamhaus DNSBLs via DNS queries to our public DNSBL servers
>>> is free of charge if you meet all three of the following criteria:
>>>    1. Your use of the Spamhaus DNSBLs is non-commercial*, and
>>>    2. Your email traffic is less than 80,000 SMTP connections per day,
>>> and
>>>    3. Your DNSBL query volume is less than 320,000 queries per day.
>>> If you do not fit all three of these criteria then please do not use our
>>> public DNSBL servers, instead see 'Professional Use' (below) which
>>> delivers our DNSBL data to your servers. If you are in any doubt as to
>>> whether you fit within our free use criteria, or think you may be likely
>>> to soon exceed our free use criteria, please switch to 'Professional
>>> Use'."
>>> "Professional Use
>>> Use of the Spamhaus DNSBLs by ISPs, organizations and networks with
>>> email traffic higher than 100,000 SMTP connections per day or making
>>> over 400,000 DNSBL queries per day, or by commercial spam filter
>>> services, requires a subscription to the Spamhaus DNSBL Data Feed
>>> Service, a service designed for users with professional DNSBL query
>>> requirements."
>> Don't believe this one, as my server gets less than 10,000 messages a
>> day -- usually a lot less --  and I am currently blacklisted.
>> I even thought about setting caching nameservers on some unused ip
>> addresses and turning it back on, but stopped myself. For now! ;-P
> I think a lot of people forget requirement 1!
But their definition of #1 is;

  *Definition: "non-commercial use" is use for any purpose other than as part 
or all of a product or service that is resold, or for use of which a fee is 
charged. For example, using our DNSBLs in a commercial spam filtering 
appliance that is then sold to others requires a data feed, regardless of use 
volume. The same is true of commercial spam filtering software and commercial 
spam filtering services.

So a business that only uses the list to filter incoming mail is not 
considered commercial by their own rules.
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