Spamhaus replacement

[Scott Silva]

on 12/4/2007 3:11 PM Hugo van der Kooij spake the following:
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> Scott Silva wrote:
>> on 12/4/2007 6:36 AM Randal, Phil spake the following:
>>> ram wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 09:25 +0700, Budi Febrianto wrote:
>>>>> Right now we only use zen.spamhaus.org and happy so far, 
>>>> but because
>>>>> spamhaus is not free anymore, now I want some 
>>>> recommendation for others
>>>>> dnsbl.
>>>> But spamhaus offers free data sync AFAIK if you are using it for your
>>>> own domain and not selling antispam solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You just need to sign up with them 
>>> http://www.spamhaus.org/organization/dnsblusage.html
>>>
>>> "Use of the Spamhaus DNSBLs via DNS queries to our public DNSBL servers
>>> is free of charge if you meet all three of the following criteria:
>>>
>>>    1. Your use of the Spamhaus DNSBLs is non-commercial*, and
>>>    2. Your email traffic is less than 80,000 SMTP connections per day,
>>> and
>>>    3. Your DNSBL query volume is less than 320,000 queries per day.
>>>
>>> If you do not fit all three of these criteria then please do not use our
>>> public DNSBL servers, instead see 'Professional Use' (below) which
>>> delivers our DNSBL data to your servers. If you are in any doubt as to
>>> whether you fit within our free use criteria, or think you may be likely
>>> to soon exceed our free use criteria, please switch to 'Professional
>>> Use'."
>>>
>>> "Professional Use
>>>
>>> Use of the Spamhaus DNSBLs by ISPs, organizations and networks with
>>> email traffic higher than 100,000 SMTP connections per day or making
>>> over 400,000 DNSBL queries per day, or by commercial spam filter
>>> services, requires a subscription to the Spamhaus DNSBL Data Feed
>>> Service, a service designed for users with professional DNSBL query
>>> requirements."
>> Don't believe this one, as my server gets less than 10,000 messages a
>> day -- usually a lot less --  and I am currently blacklisted.
>> I even thought about setting caching nameservers on some unused ip
>> addresses and turning it back on, but stopped myself. For now! ;-P
> 
> I think a lot of people forget requirement 1!
> 
> I would say that any bunch of requests from an IP adres where the WHOIS
> info points to 'business' could be considered a disqualifier.
> 
> You may not like their policy but anyone not using spamhaus at home but
> in the office without a feed is in fact a disqualified user.
> 
> But I have to admit I have still not yet conviced that Barracuda
> networks they should NOT setup spamhaus as default RBL on their equipment.
> 
Then barracuda users will feel spamhaus's wrath when their "nifty spamblocking 
thingamajiggy" suddenly blocks either everything or nothing. Anybody who would 
spend the money on a barracuda probably has the volume that would trigger the 
firewalling.

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