RBL blocking emails by mistake?

Scott Silva ssilva at
Mon Sep 11 16:16:02 IST 2006

DAve spake the following on 9/8/2006 8:08 PM:
> Scott Silva wrote:
>> DAve spake the following on 9/8/2006 8:39 AM:
>>> John Rudd wrote:
>>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:58 AM, Res wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Rob Morin wrote:
>>>>>> I checked the IP and it was not listed. Is it possible to be listed
>>>>>> at 7AM and then removed at 10AM? Plus its a account/IP
>>>>> Yes, spamcop have a time based entry system
>>>>> if its that IP's first entry its delisted after 2 hours, then if your
>>>>> in it again its longer, and so on, each time gets longer, its a very
>>>>> fair process.
>>>> It would be a fair process if their criteria were reasonable and
>>>> accurate.
>>>> Since their criteria are neither, the process is anything but fair.
>>> I don't know if their criteria is fair or not, they never tell me their
>>> criteria. I know that if a spamcop subscriber turns in a message as spam
>>> from my server, and they list me, and the message body looks something
>>> like,
>>> "Hi grandson,
>>> I hope I got your email address right, your handwriting is hard to read
>>> with my cataracts. Grandpa passed this morning, your Mom will call you
>>> when you get out of class. I hate to make you miss finals so please
>>> don't come to the funeral. Grandpa would understand.
>>> Love Grandma"
>>> Then there is a problem with their criteria for certain.
>>> I still do not believe that a common users opinion should be the sole
>>> determination of what is SPAM and what is not. I get several hundred AOL
>>> SPAM reports I must manually unsubscribe from maillists each month
>>> because they sign up to gain access to a website and then don't want the
>>> mail. SPAM has become "mail I don't want".
>>> DAve
>> Any body that would report that message is using some sort of automated
>> system, and I don't think any automation should be used, with the
>> exception of
>> spamtraps. Spamtraps are different because they aren't a legitimate
>> address,
>> so anything they get should be spam.
> But they did, that message exactly as typed. Clearly a case of 'I don't
> recognize the sender address so it must be spam'. I get plenty of those
> from AOL where the user has to hit the spam button, and does so without
> regard. I suspect there are Monkeys run amok inside AOL just logging
> into accounts and clearing the inbox with the spam button.
> DAve
That's the problem right there. It came from AOL -- America on Ludes!
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