RBL blocking emails by mistake?

DAve dave.list at
Sat Sep 9 04:08:44 IST 2006

Scott Silva wrote:
> DAve spake the following on 9/8/2006 8:39 AM:
>> John Rudd wrote:
>>> On Sep 8, 2006, at 4:58 AM, Res wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Rob Morin wrote:
>>>>> I checked the IP and it was not listed. Is it possible to be listed
>>>>> at 7AM and then removed at 10AM? Plus its a account/IP
>>>> Yes, spamcop have a time based entry system
>>>> if its that IP's first entry its delisted after 2 hours, then if your
>>>> in it again its longer, and so on, each time gets longer, its a very
>>>> fair process.
>>> It would be a fair process if their criteria were reasonable and
>>> accurate.
>>> Since their criteria are neither, the process is anything but fair.
>> I don't know if their criteria is fair or not, they never tell me their
>> criteria. I know that if a spamcop subscriber turns in a message as spam
>> from my server, and they list me, and the message body looks something
>> like,
>> "Hi grandson,
>> I hope I got your email address right, your handwriting is hard to read
>> with my cataracts. Grandpa passed this morning, your Mom will call you
>> when you get out of class. I hate to make you miss finals so please
>> don't come to the funeral. Grandpa would understand.
>> Love Grandma"
>> Then there is a problem with their criteria for certain.
>> I still do not believe that a common users opinion should be the sole
>> determination of what is SPAM and what is not. I get several hundred AOL
>> SPAM reports I must manually unsubscribe from maillists each month
>> because they sign up to gain access to a website and then don't want the
>> mail. SPAM has become "mail I don't want".
>> DAve
> Any body that would report that message is using some sort of automated
> system, and I don't think any automation should be used, with the exception of
> spamtraps. Spamtraps are different because they aren't a legitimate address,
> so anything they get should be spam.

But they did, that message exactly as typed. Clearly a case of 'I don't 
recognize the sender address so it must be spam'. I get plenty of those 
from AOL where the user has to hit the spam button, and does so without 
regard. I suspect there are Monkeys run amok inside AOL just logging 
into accounts and clearing the inbox with the spam button.


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