Infinite Monkeys and other BLs

[Kevin Miller]

Yes, but if you had been properly managing you email servers, you wouldn't
have had any problem.  Most of us here never even noticed IM had done
anything any differently.

If the highway dept has been putting up road signs saying "The bridge is
out" for six miles before the bridge, it's hardly their fault if you drive
in the water...

...Kevin
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Kevin Miller                Registered Linux User No: 307357
CBJ MIS Dept.               Network Systems Administrator, Mail
Administrator
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Hammett [mailto:james at CHE.UTEXAS.EDU]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:05 AM
>To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>Subject: Re: Infinite Monkeys and other BLs
>
>
>Read my email(s)!
>
>No I'm blaming them from in their own word:
>        "as of now every IP address in the world has been listed on the
>former Monkeys.Com anti-spam lists"
>
>Instead of simply shutting down the service (WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN
>FINE), they provided FALSE information.  If they had simply shutdown
>the service, NO PROBLEM.
>
>Servers of all types are shutdown all of the time.  You don't change
>them to start giving people false information.  Calling the time and
>temperature service if free, all they have to do is disconnect the
>phone.  They don't need to start telling people its going to be sunny
>and clear while outside its the clear before the storm. (They unplug
>the phone)
>
>later,
>James
>
>
>At 08:42 PM +0100 on 3/17/04, you (Remco Barendse) wrote:
>>You mean that you actually blame IM because you were not
>>keeping your own systems up to date?.
>>
>>Who are you going to blame when your server room is struck by
>fire and you
>>did not make any backups?
>>
>>If you didn't like the offered DNSBL services, did not trust them or
>>thought that they do not offer 'value for money' you should not have
>>been using them in the first place.
>>
>>Don't blame others for your own mistakes, if anyone should be sued
>>for not doing their job it should not be IM
>>
>>Just my 0.02$
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, James Hammett wrote:
>>
>>>  At 06:57 PM +0000 on 3/17/04, you (Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
>>>  Solutions) wrote:
>>>  >  >
>>>  >>  I think his question was, why does the file currently being
>>>  >>  distributed with Mailscanner still have Infinite Monkey in it.
>>>  >
>>>  >Where?
>>>  >>
>>>  >>  IMHO, the actions of the people at IM were vindictive
>and uncalled
>>>  >>  for.  I hope someone takes some legal actions against them.
>>>  >>
>>>  >Do my eyes deceive me?
>>>  >Christ!
>>>
>>>  Shutdown the server and just not responding to the request would
>>>  result in a TIMEOUT. I wouldn't have problem with that.
>>>
>>>  Instead they DELIBERATELY configured their server to provide FALSE
>>>  information.  At our site, this resulted in the loss of work.
>>>
>>>  If you don't want to offer the service, just don't offer
>the service.
>>>  DON'T PROVIDE FALSE INFORMATION.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  >The majority of RBLs are not for profit run by people in
>their spare time.
>>>  >They come under constant attack from spammers and their
>supporters and now
>>>  >you want to whine like this?
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  Then just stop offering the service. Don't start producing false
>>>information.
>>>
>>>  later,
>>>  James
>>>  --
>>>
>>>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>-----------
>>>  James Hammett
>>>  Users Services / Server and Lab Administration
>>>  (SLAM)
>>>  Information Technology Services ( (ITS)
>      CPE 4.442
>>>  Chemical Engineering Unix Support
>         471-9701
>>>
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>>>          An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
>everywhere - MLK jr.
>>>
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>>>
>
>
>--
>
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>James Hammett
>Users Services / Server and Lab Administration
>(SLAM)
>Information Technology Services ( (ITS)
>  CPE 4.442
>Chemical Engineering Unix Support
>     471-9701
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>        An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
>everywhere - MLK jr.
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>