Infinite Monkeys and other BLs

[Jon Fraley]

On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 15:11, Kevin Miller wrote:
> Yes, but if you had been properly managing you email servers, you wouldn't
> have had any problem.  Most of us here never even noticed IM had done
> anything any differently.
>
> If the highway dept has been putting up road signs saying "The bridge is
> out" for six miles before the bridge, it's hardly their fault if you drive
> in the water...
>
Aaaahh!  But they would be if they did not take the necessary steps to
stop the traffic.

Enough said, let's move on.

Jon

> ...Kevin
> --
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>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: James Hammett [mailto:james at CHE.UTEXAS.EDU]
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:05 AM
> >To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >Subject: Re: Infinite Monkeys and other BLs
> >
> >
> >Read my email(s)!
> >
> >No I'm blaming them from in their own word:
> >        "as of now every IP address in the world has been listed on the
> >former Monkeys.Com anti-spam lists"
> >
> >Instead of simply shutting down the service (WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN
> >FINE), they provided FALSE information.  If they had simply shutdown
> >the service, NO PROBLEM.
> >
> >Servers of all types are shutdown all of the time.  You don't change
> >them to start giving people false information.  Calling the time and
> >temperature service if free, all they have to do is disconnect the
> >phone.  They don't need to start telling people its going to be sunny
> >and clear while outside its the clear before the storm. (They unplug
> >the phone)
> >
> >later,
> >James
> >
> >
> >At 08:42 PM +0100 on 3/17/04, you (Remco Barendse) wrote:
> >>You mean that you actually blame IM because you were not
> >>keeping your own systems up to date?.
> >>
> >>Who are you going to blame when your server room is struck by
> >fire and you
> >>did not make any backups?
> >>
> >>If you didn't like the offered DNSBL services, did not trust them or
> >>thought that they do not offer 'value for money' you should not have
> >>been using them in the first place.
> >>
> >>Don't blame others for your own mistakes, if anyone should be sued
> >>for not doing their job it should not be IM
> >>
> >>Just my 0.02$
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, James Hammett wrote:
> >>
> >>>  At 06:57 PM +0000 on 3/17/04, you (Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
> >>>  Solutions) wrote:
> >>>  >  >
> >>>  >>  I think his question was, why does the file currently being
> >>>  >>  distributed with Mailscanner still have Infinite Monkey in it.
> >>>  >
> >>>  >Where?
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >>  IMHO, the actions of the people at IM were vindictive
> >and uncalled
> >>>  >>  for.  I hope someone takes some legal actions against them.
> >>>  >>
> >>>  >Do my eyes deceive me?
> >>>  >Christ!
> >>>
> >>>  Shutdown the server and just not responding to the request would
> >>>  result in a TIMEOUT. I wouldn't have problem with that.
> >>>
> >>>  Instead they DELIBERATELY configured their server to provide FALSE
> >>>  information.  At our site, this resulted in the loss of work.
> >>>
> >>>  If you don't want to offer the service, just don't offer
> >the service.
> >>>  DON'T PROVIDE FALSE INFORMATION.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  >The majority of RBLs are not for profit run by people in
> >their spare time.
> >>>  >They come under constant attack from spammers and their
> >supporters and now
> >>>  >you want to whine like this?
> >>>  >
> >>>
> >>>  Then just stop offering the service. Don't start producing false
> >>>information.
> >>>
> >>>  later,
> >>>  James
> >>>  --
> >>>
> >>>
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >-----------
> >>>  James Hammett
> >>>  Users Services / Server and Lab Administration
> >>>  (SLAM)
> >>>  Information Technology Services ( (ITS)
> >      CPE 4.442
> >>>  Chemical Engineering Unix Support
> >         471-9701
> >>>
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >-------------
> >>>          An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
> >everywhere - MLK jr.
> >>>
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >-------------
> >>>
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >-----------
> >James Hammett
> >Users Services / Server and Lab Administration
> >(SLAM)
> >Information Technology Services ( (ITS)
> >  CPE 4.442
> >Chemical Engineering Unix Support
> >     471-9701
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >-------------
> >        An injustice anywhere is a threat to justice
> >everywhere - MLK jr.
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >-------------
> >