Postfix and Mailscanner sitting in a tree k-iss-ing

[Drew Marshall]

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Julian Field wrote:

> avery wrote:
>
>> Drew Marshall wrote:
>>
>>> Drew,
>>>
>>>> Awesome, Awesome, Awesome, thank you. I needed that information badly
>>>> and so do others. I am making a proposal to expose this information. I
>>>> just wanted someone to specifically state the reasons why things have
>>>> changed. If more postfix users knew this they might not be so
>>>> afraid of
>>>> using Mailscanner with postfix. The postfix community is still telling
>>>> people not to use Mailscanner with postfix even though it seems a
>>>> solution has been found. As of right this second the postfix
>>>> experts on
>>>> the postfix mailing list are telling people that it is not safe to use
>>>> postfix and Mailscanner together.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As you have researched, Julian Field (I *can* spell that one!) and the
>>> Postfix development team don't see eye to eye (To put it mildly). The
>>> attitude from the Postfix end is do it our way or not at all, which is
>>> sad and not totally in the spirit of open source (IMHO), after all what
>>> difference is MS moving messages to the queue runner moving messages?
>>> Anyway I'm not going to stand on that soap box :-) . I love MailScanner
>>> as it's well documented, easy to configure and does loads of clever
>>> stuff without me needing to know too much and it's always evolving and
>>> developing. Ironically, I love Postfix for the same reasons and it's
>>> pretty quick too! Fortunately there is a neat way to make the two work
>>> together. One last point. If you ever want to 'hold' a message you
>>> can't
>>> use Postfix to do so (As that is the MS interface) however MailScanner
>>> comes with great quarantine features which you can set up via rule sets
>>> which are much simpler than the regex required to make Postfix's
>>> content
>>> or header specific system work, just in case that one should surface as
>>> an argument... :-)
>>>
>>
>> Drew,
>>
>> I agree completely that Mailscanner is a awesome piece of software, so
>> is postfix though.
>>
>> Maybe this isn't my place to say this, but at least this sort of
>> information should be on the Mailscanner website. The strength of
>> GNU/GPL/OpenSource communities is all of the great information you can
>> get that the proprietary world lacks so much of. Why not just openly
>> state that the postfix community does not agree with how Mailscanner
>> works with postfix and that Mailscanner has tried to accommodate the
>> postfix community. No politics no bull just the facts. Then people like
>> me are more educated on the subject and less people would be bothering
>> the Mailscanner experts on the mailing list : ) . Sometime exposting the
>> facts kills off the politics and drama.
>>
>> A lot of people like me are struggling to keep open source products a
>> part of the IT infrastructure we work in. We sometimes have difficulty
>> getting the facts, and a lot of people are getting scared away from
>> Mailscanner because of this. I am not proposing changing anything, I am
>> just saying lets expose the facts.
>
>
> It would be great if you could add this to the FAQ on the website. It's
> not a wiki but works very like one. Thanks!

I'll try to put something together. Won't be immediate as I would like
to make it readable and could do with less beer and more sleep inside of
me :-)

Drew

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