anti-phishing mode shot down by mgmt

Michael St. Laurent mikes at HARTWELLCORP.COM
Thu Dec 2 18:24:06 GMT 2004


I'm not defending Outlook, I'm just trying to help out a fellow sysadmin.
If the advice was unwelcome then I apologize.

Jeff A. Earickson <> wrote:
> Outlook is totally lame in this regard.  Cut and paste?  Gimme a
> break. The boss is smart enough to reveal the headers and do the
> cut-and-paste, but I want a complete unmangled copy of the message.
> Pine (what I use) allows you to reveal the full mail headers and then
> forward or bounce the whole message elsewhere in one piece.  With
> Eudora, you open the message, click the "blah-blah" icon, and
> forward.  Outlook: Yuck.
>
> Jeff Earickson
> Colby College
>
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Michael St. Laurent wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:53:26 -0800
>> From: Michael St. Laurent <mikes at HARTWELLCORP.COM>
>> Reply-To: MailScanner mailing list <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: anti-phishing mode shot down by mgmt
>>
>> In Outlook you can get the mail headers by right clicking on the
>> message and choosing "Options" from the context menu.  The headers
>> will be in the "Internet headers:" box.  Even though the box is
>> greyed out they can use the standard windows methods to copy and
>> paste them.
>>
>> Jeff A. Earickson <> wrote:
>>> The pointy-haired boss kept complaining about the NY Times emails.
>>> I added "From:   *@*.nytimes.com no" to my phishing ruleset, but he
>>> still complained (guess I didn't get the rule right).  To add insult
>>> to injury, this guy uses Outlook for his email reader so he can't
>>> even send me a complete email example with mail headers and
>>> everything. This from our head of ITS, and our official policy is
>>> "we don't support Outlook, use Eudora".   Arrgh.  I don't subscribe
>>> to the
>>> NY Times email service myself.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Julian Field wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:27:22 +0000
>>>> From: Julian Field <mailscanner at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK>
>>>> Reply-To: MailScanner mailing list <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>>>> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>>> Subject: Re: anti-phishing mode shot down by mgmt
>>>>
>>>> Have they got any examples of it crying wolf? I agree it's not
>>>> perfect, but it can't be. Perhaps you should setup your own
>>>> in-house phishing scam to provide the service locally? :-)
>>>>
>>>> Jeff A. Earickson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Julian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Management has asked me to turn off anti-phishing, which I did
>>>>> when I upgraded to 4.36.4 this morning.  They had gotten annoyed
>>>>> by it and thought it cried wolf too much.  We are back to the
>>>>> Darwin mode of "a fool and his money are soon parted."
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff Earickson
>>>>> Colby College
>>>>>
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