Monkeys RBL timeouts

mikea mikea at MIKEA.ATH.CX
Tue Sep 23 15:11:00 IST 2003


On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 03:45:25PM +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
> Hi!
>
> > >Anyone else seeing Monkeys not working ok ?
> >
> > Not Monkeys.
>
> Very strange, even from within SURFnet, where you get your connectivity
> its showing this:
>
> [raymond at master raymond]$ dig ns monkeys.com
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.1 <<>> ns monkeys.com
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
> [raymond at master raymond]$
>
> Could you do the same on your end?
>
> And please look if thats not cached either :)
>
> > I only see COUNTRY-AR and RFC-IGNORANT-WHOIS but neither reach 7.
>
> I dont use the AR one, and the RFC ones i have running on my own servers ,
> so i doubt they will timeout :)) I rsync the RFC ones...

Some "Tier-1" providers, such as AboveNet, have been nullrouting or
otherwise intentionally not passing traffic to/from, IP addresses and
sometimes networks belonging to people who repeatedly complain about
spam from those providers.

It is possible, if you are downstream of one of those providers, that
you won't see packets from the complainers, even though the advertised
routes include them.

I'm not a routing expert, and a routing expert might put it
differently, but this is the meat of the matter as I understand it.
And yes, it *is* a really broken -- one might even say "b0rk3n" -- way
to do business. I'm especially upset about it because, once upon a
time, I managed the AboveNet abuse desk.

--
Mike Andrews
mikea at mikea.ath.cx
Tired old sysadmin since 1964



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