spam/notspam w/sa-learn
Donovan Huff | HUFF DATA SYSTEMS
donovan at HUFFDATASYSTEMS.COM
Tue May 6 01:03:32 IST 2003
I like the spam@ and notspam@ idea, also it would be a good idea to only allow it from your users/domains. If you get this setup
please send me a copy and/or let the list know.
Regards,
Donovan Huff
Owner/Operator
HUFF DATA SYSTEMS
donovan at huffdatasystems.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Feasey, Nicholas" <NFeasey at UTPRESS.UTORONTO.CA>
To: <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: spam/notspam w/sa-learn
> That's interesting.
>
> The Public folders is a good idea but we too are moving to Exchange 2000
> shortly (just in time for Exchange 2003! :) ).
>
> The easiest thing to do, in my mind, is have the user send a message to
> spam@<my.domain.name> or notspam@<my.domain.name> which merely contains the
> email address in question. This is intercepted by a mail rewrite script to
> massage the address into a mail header which then could be read by the
> sa-learn script?
>
> So, looks like I'm going to have to go into the sa-learn script and do some
> poking around as my users would just love this feature.
>
> Anything to stop these large amounts of messages with weewees, peepees and
> mothers having intercourse with their sons but also allowing my users to
> receive the Penthouse monthly e-zine as required. :)
>
> N
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Spicer [mailto:kevins at BMRB.CO.UK]
> Sent: 5-May-03 3:26 PM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: spam/notspam w/sa-learn
>
>
> A couple of us on the list have been experimenting with ways of using
> the 'public folders' feature in Exchange to get round this problem with
> Outlook. I understand this works with Exchange 5.5. But due to an
> 'improvement' Microsoft made in Exchange 2000 it doesn't work with that
> (which I personally find damn annoying).
> The basic way it works is by creating two public folders for spam and
> ham then using a script on the MailScanner machine to grab the messages
> using IMAP.
>
> The most important thing when feeding messages to sa-learn is that the
> message ID should not be changed (since sa-learn tracks which messages
> it has learned using this). Should the message ID change, which is
> likely to happen when forwarding, SA may well learn the same message as
> both ham and spam!
>
> On Mon, 2003-05-05 at 19:33, Feasey, Nicholas wrote:
> Hmm? So then, by forwarding I would place my address in the
> spam/notspam mailboxes and be identified as such.
> Any ideas on how to "fool" the app so that it will work with Outlook or
> am I going to have to try to write some sort of script - if, in fact,
> that is possible.
>
> N
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Field [mailto:mailscanner at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK]
> Sent: 5-May-03 2:22 PM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: spam/notspam w/sa-learn
>
>
> At 19:16 05/05/2003, you wrote:
>
> Forgive my ignorance/stupidity on this subject but what do you
> mean by redirect?
> Different mail apps call it different things, but it is usually
> bounce or redirect. It sends the message on with the headers intact,
> so that replies go back to the original sender and not the person
> who redirected it.
>
> Outlook and Outlook Express cannot do it.
> Why, I don't know, it's the simplest job in the book :-(
>
>
> Yes, the cron job is in place, just want to give my users
> CORRECT instructions on using the "auto-learn" feature.
>
> N
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Julian Field [mailto:mailscanner at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK]
>
> Sent: 5-May-03 2:07 PM
>
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
> Subject: Re: spam/notspam w/sa-learn
>
>
> At 18:40 05/05/2003, you wrote:
>
> I just want to be clear on the usage of the spam and not
> spam accounts used in conjunction with the sa-learn
> script.
>
>
> I can have my users forward any message received to
> either spam (to have it identified as spam) or notspam
> (to have it identified as ham) and it will
>
> be automatcially learned (sa-learn)??
>
> It is important that they "redirect" and not "forward" their
> mail to the addresses, as forwarding will destroy the
> headers and make it appear that your users are the spammers.
>
>
>
> Is this correct?
>
> You do, of course, need my cron job script to do the actual
> work, mailboxes aren't magic :-)
>
>
> I don't want my users showing up as spammers because
> they are listed as the forwarder.
>
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