{Disarmed} Re: New to MailScanner

[Glenn Steen]

MailSanner and one of the "front-ends" will likely be able to do exactly
what you want, and (in the case of Postfix as MTA, at least) with OSS tools
"through and through":).
The problem is your third point, not so much for the messages that get
handled by MailScanner as such, but rather the ones you reject at the MTA
level. Such rejections inherently only leave a very slight presence in your
logs, and are done so early in the process (according to the philosophy:
the earlier you reject, the lees work your MX host need do!) so that your
MTA simply doesn't know enough to determine which the final recipient would
have been (think RFC "strictness" like rejection malformed HELO/EHLO
statements, for example "EHLO joe.schmo at example.net" or "EHLO plainword").
For summarising stuff like that you need do some log analysis (pflogsum
come to mind).
but for everything that is accepted but never delivered to the recipient,
at leas mailWatch have a nice quarantine report (there have been others
over the years, I'm just mentioning the one I'm somewhat familiar with;)
that will do exactly what you want.

Cheers
-- 
-- Glenn

On 30 July 2014 19:03, Greg Ledford <gledford at phhwtechnology.com> wrote:

>  I’m mostly trying to accomplish three things: 1) effective front-end
> spam filtering 2) FREE software to do it 3) a daily report sent to users to
> see what was captured so they don’t wonder if they missed a client email
> that was caught as spam and rejected. I’m not sure if this software will
> even meet my needs but I’m open to ideas and suggestions. Thanks to
> everyone for your help.
>
>
>
>
> *Greg Ledford*
> *PHHW Technology Services LLC*
> 1000 Corporate Centre Dr, Ste 200
> Franklin, TN 37067
> Office (615) 778-1777
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> Email gledford at phhwtechnology.com
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>
>
> *From:* mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:
> mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] *On Behalf Of *Tracy Greggs
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:03 AM
> *To:* 'MailScanner discussion'
> *Subject:* RE: {Disarmed} Re: New to MailScanner
>
>
>
> I don’t use postfix so I could be off base here, but according to the
> snertsoft site, milter-ahead works with postfix as well as sendmail.
>
>
>
> I guess the whole point of my suggestion in the 1st place is that the
> original poster would want to use some form of recipient verification
> before processing with MailScanner IMO.  In my case Milter-Ahead does a
> great job but there is always more than 1 way to do things.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tracy
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [
> mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
> <mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info>] *On Behalf Of *Alex Neuman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:09 AM
>
> *To:* MailScanner discussion
> *Subject:* {Disarmed} Re: New to MailScanner
>
>
>
> I've gone the milter-ahead route myself a couple of times; don't know
> if/how it applies to Postfix. I did find this through Google:
>
>
>
>
> http://acidx.net/wordpress/2014/06/installing-a-mailserver-with-postfix-dovecot-sasl-ldap-roundcube/
>
>
>
> In section 6 it describes how Postfix can check LDAP for valid recipients,
> if I interpret it correctly.
>
>
>
> Just a brain shart.
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> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Tracy Greggs <mailscanner-list at okla.com>
> wrote:
>
> Milter-Ahead is just a commercial mail filter addon.  It is a 1 time cost
> of
> a little over 100.00 US.  It checks with the exchange box to see if it is a
> valid recipient before MailScanner processes it.  It caches results as
> well.
>
> If we wanted to have a discussion about free and not free, exchange is
> certainly not free.
>
> I was merely trying to point out that in a MailScanner gateway setup for
> exchange, Milter-Ahead works great for making sure the recipient is valid
> on
> the exchange server before any processing.
>
> It really has nothing to do with spam filtering, it just keeps you from
> processing mail with the MailScanner gateway and shipping it to the
> exchange
> box after when it is not a valid recipient on the exchange box in the 1st
> place.
>
> Perhaps you misunderstood the point I was making.
>
> How does graylisting do that or have anything to do with that?
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Mogens
> Melander
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 2:36 AM
> To: MailScanner discussion
> Subject: RE: New to MailScanner
>
> It's probably just me, but.
>
> Why would the OP need a paid service to do, what his free, and very potent
> gateway, will do for him, in less cycles. Saving him the hassle of dealing
> with a commercial entity, instead of a friendly and helpful user community.
>
>
> A few keywords in google's search box would bring him more helpful
> suggestions than yours.
>
> BTW. I use sendmail too. I use smf graylisting:
>
> http://www.greylisting.org/implementations/sendmail.shtml
>
> https://www.google.dk/?gws_rd=ssl#newwindow=1&q=smf+greylisting+postfix
>
> If it's not postfix friendly, something similar should be easy to find.
>
> Just a brain fart.
>
>
> On Tue, July 29, 2014 20:47, Tracy Greggs wrote:
> > I use sendmail, so someone else can comment on your postfix question.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would make a suggestion to turn on the Exchange antispam feature for
> > recipient checking and run MILTER-AHEAD with your MailScanner MTA.  It
> > is cheap but not free, but well worth the expense.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tracy Greggs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
> > [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Greg
> > Ledford
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:49 AM
> > To: 'mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info'
> > Subject: New to MailScanner
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello. Please be kind as I'm still learning the program and I'll have
> > lots of questions. Is there a webpage that lists the instructions to
> > install MailScanner + Postfix if you are using it as a front-end for
> > an Exchange
> > 2010 server? Thanks for any help you can provide.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Ledford
> > PHHW Technology Services LLC
> > 1000 Corporate Centre Dr, Ste 200
> > Franklin, TN 37067
> > Office (615) 778-1777
> > Cell (615) 403-6989
> >
> > Fax (615) 771-0081
> > Email  <mailto:gledford at phhwtechnology.com>
>
> > gledford at phhwtechnology.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
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> --
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> +66 8701 33224
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-- Glenn
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