spamhaus-ZEN is found but no points are awarded?

Remco Barendse mailscanner at
Tue May 26 15:21:57 IST 2009

Actually, in my sendmail configuration i use
to completely block e-mail coming from these sources (hope i am not 
overblocking but no complaints so far).

I included spamhaus-ZEN in my MailScanner.conf (to avoid generating too 
many lookups which might block me from using the free use policy as i 
heard that people get blocked for anything way below the limits posted on 
their website) and i was hoping that it would improve the accuracy of my 
bayes database.

This means that effectively i only have one list to check by SpamAssassin 
but it should score it.

If nobody is including any scores for ZEN, should i also include that in 
my block lists then instead of using it from MailScanner?

I would prefer to not stop blocking spam at MTA level to avoid the spam 
"hold" storage from overflowing (the mail partition only has 2TB of 
free space) :)

On Tue, 26 May 2009, Julian Field wrote:

> Also, by doing a SpamAssassin check on a message which was already found in a 
> "Spam List", you are just wasting CPU and network resources doing a large 
> check on a message, for which you then ignore the result anyway (normally). 
> So you might want to consider switching off the SpamAssassin check on hosts 
> found in Spam Lists.
> On 26/05/2009 12:35, Martin Hepworth wrote:
>>  Remco
>>  This is because MaiLScanner is doing the spamhaus check and not
>>  spamassaddin - ie it's defined in Mailscanner.conf in the "Spam List"
>>  option.
>>  Autowhitelist results vary - I find for a large ( > 10) mixed user base
>>  it's not good and soon false positives badly.
>>  --
>>  Martin Hepworth
>>  Oxford, UK
>>  2009/5/26 Remco Barendse <mailscanner at
>>  <mailto:mailscanner at>>
>>      I did a bare metal new installation of MailScanner. Everything
>>      seems to work ok but i am curious about one thing.
>>      MailScanner checks the message against spamhaus-ZEN and finds it
>>      is listed but there is no score awarded to the e-mail.
>>      Why is this? Now the spams are scoring lower than they should and
>>      they are now slipping through because they are just below the high
>>      scoring mark :
>>      X-linuxgw-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, spamhaus-ZEN,
>>             SpamAssassin (not cached, score=9.763, required 6,
>>      DCC_CHECK 3.00,
>>             FH_HELO_EQ_D_D_D_D 0.50, FH_HOST_EQ_VERIZON_P 1.10,
>>             HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR 2.94, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RCVD_IN_PBL 0.51,
>>             RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 1.61, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10)
>>      And i guess that adding some points for ZEN listing should also
>>      help in getting the database improved?
>>      Then a slightly different question, is using use_auto_whitelist a
>>      good idea?
>>      Thanks list!
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> Jules

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