New wiki page

Alex Broens ms-list at
Fri Jun 26 13:59:12 IST 2009

On 6/26/2009 2:39 PM, Julian Field wrote:
> On 26/06/2009 12:48, Alex Broens wrote:
>> On 6/26/2009 1:34 PM, Julian Field wrote:
>>> On 26/06/2009 12:29, Alex Broens wrote:
>>>> On 6/26/2009 1:13 PM, Julian Field wrote:
>>>>> Version 1 of the page is up at 
>>>>> You might find it has one or two little tricks you didn't know about.
>>>>> Please do also contribute things I should add to it.
>>>>> Let me know what you think!
>>>> your provosion to download KAM rules directly will hammer the server.
>>>> KAM's rules are included in sa-update AFTER masschecks and deemed 
>>>> fit for wide production usage.
>>> What are the details for using KAM within sa-update, and where is it 
>>> documented?
>> They are included in SA's sa-update when he submits for inclusion.
> But his ruleset appears to change with great frequency. How often does 
> he submit rules to SA for inclusion in the main sa-update run?
>> His personal rules file contains old stock rules, etc etc, is pretty 
>> large in size and blindly using it will add memory usage with 
>> questionable hit efficiency.
> It's always worked very nicely for me, which is why I put in on my page.
>>> My script only runs once per day, and includes a random delay at 
>>> startup to spread the load on the servers.
>> You are still hitting someone's (probably) personal server on a 
>> regular basis. Does Kevin know you encourage many thousand MS users to 
>> do this?
> Spread around the world, it's only a few thousand an hour, that isn't 
> much traffic. Most people are happy to see their work getting some use, 
> he has never complained to anyone that I'm aware of.
> If he needs more bandwidth, he is welcome to ask me for some help in 
> that area.

Like so many similar cases, its nice while it lasts.

He won't ask, he doesn't even know who is sending him the hits, it would 
be polite to ask him and/or mirror the data on your site on a daily 
basis and have your users pick it up there.

Ppl do get tired of freeriders, especially when they see that their work 
is often included in commercial services and apps and not even asked or 

It was one of the reasons the SARE project died a premature death, and 
which prevents many ppl from starting new ones.


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