Sender Address Verification

Ken A. ka at pacific.net
Tue Jul 14 21:43:37 IST 2009


On 07/13/2009 09:46 PM, Brent Addis wrote:
> wow. small text. My eyyyes...
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> Wouldn't enabling SPF on hosted domains help with this?
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> That way, sender verification is only checking on email sent from your
> own valid mailservers anyway, saving your precious cpu load. We were
> getting several thousand sender lookups a day from various sources. We
> enabled spf with the -all (It had been ~all while we were testng)  flag,
> and that dropped down to a couple of hundred, generally to valid
> addresses, which I have no problem with.

You didn't mention how do you distinguish callbacks from spam probes, 
dictionary attacks, or backscatter.

I suppose callbacks might be reduced, if recipient domains configure so 
that spf hard fail rejects mail immediately, or skips sender 
verification. smf-sav doesn't care about spf by itself though, so this 
requires some proper ordering of milters, etc..

Ken



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> From: Hostmaster<Hostmaster at computerservicecentre.com>
> Reply-to: MailScanner discussion<mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> To: MailScanner discussion<mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info>
> Subject: RE: Sender Address Verification
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:35:03 +0100
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>> I recently deployed the smf-sav, which works quite well. It takes a lot
> of load off mailscanner.
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>> I recently got listed on backscatter because I have used it on one of
> “their” members so it seems.
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>> Looking on their Web Site it seems there is nothing I can do only pay
> them 50 euro to get delisted, and then what happens if I do>sav again?
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>> Have any of the list had this issue, with smf-sav?  Is there anything
> that can be done from your experience? I do not want to turn>off
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>> Thanks to you all
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> I must admit that I find something particularly distasteful about being
> on the receiving end of sender validation lookups, especially
> considering that some of our servers receive email for domains which
> they do not send email for. In my opinion, nobody should rely on someone
> else’s resources (memory and CPU time) to work out if they should accept
> an email, and I guess that the Backscatter blacklist was built on this
> basis – their sender callout policy is here -
> http://www.backscatterer.org/?target=sendercallouts and I have to say
> that I agree with all points.
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> I am pretty sure that this has been discussed on-list before and that
> some people have very strong feelings in both ways regarding callouts,
> so it might be worth searching the list archives for further info on the
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> Best Regards,
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> Richard
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Ken Anderson
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