[OT] TMDA

Scott Silva ssilva at sgvwater.com
Tue Mar 25 23:00:05 GMT 2008


on 3-25-2008 3:03 PM Matt Kettler spake the following:
> --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is anybody using TMDA with Postfix, especially the challenge/response 
>> element of it?  Thoughts?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
> 
> Beyond the fact that it irritates people (ie: every time you get 
> spammed, you wind up sending unsolicited challenges to some innocent 
> third party.. In effect, they get spammed every time you do), there are 
> other problems with TMDA.
> 
> 
> Fundamentally, TMDA boils down to a system of outsourcing your spam 
> filtering onto others, irritating them by doing so without their 
> consent, and then hoping they'll behave the way you want and handle it 
> for you.
> 
> TMDA breaks down when it encounters people like me.
> 
> Whenever I get a challenge for a message I did send, I consider who 
> benefits from the message. If the delivery of the message benefits the 
> recipient more than me, i.e.: I'm giving away advice for free, I delete 
> the challenge without approving it. I've already expended enough work 
> writing a response to their question. I'm not going to jump through 
> extra hoops after the fact to deliver it to them.
> 
> Whenever I get a challenge for a message I don't believe I sent, I 
> immediately approve it. After all, I don't want to be responsible for 
> them missing out on an email when I'm unsure of the content, it could be 
> important to them...
> 
> In both cases, their system just sent me an unsolicited message. Now 
> that they've ticked me off by spamming me, why should I cooperate? As 
> far as I know, nobody has offered to pay me, or even politely asked me 
> to handle their spam filtering. Why should I reward them for such 
> impolite behavior? What would you do if your neighbor took a leaf blower 
> and blew all his leaves into your yard without asking? would you bag 
> them for him? I wouldn't. I'd use my leaf blower to blow them back where 
> they came from.
> 
Before or after you tossed the burning match into the pile?  ;-P




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