relays.ordb.org blacklisting all IPs

Stephen Swaney steve.swaney at fsl.com
Tue Mar 25 17:01:58 GMT 2008


Dear all,

You might note that relays.ordb.org, which has been dead for a while, has
just blacklisted the world. If you are blocking at the MTA level using this
site you are probably not receiving any mail as a result of this change.

Best regards,

Steve
Steve Swaney
steve at fsl.com
www.fsl.com


Steve Swaney
steve at fsl.com
Office Phone: 202 595-7760 ext. 601 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-
> bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Marco Barbero
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:33 PM
> To: mailscanner at lists.mailscanner.info
> Subject: mailscanner/postfix issue (this is going to make me mad)
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Scenario is the following:
> Dual Xeon Quad Core 4GB Ram
> Debian Etch, custom kernel 2.6.24.3
> 
> A)  At the first I use the following env:
> 
> MTA: postfix
> MailScanner 4.67.6
> SpamAssassin 3.2.4
> Razor , DCC
> vispan (only for spam stats)
> avira antivir
> 
> I use drbd 8.2.5 for network mirroring (using heartbeat 1.2.5) of
> postfix/mailscanner queues and for mailscanner quarantine and bayes.
> 
> I use list.dsbl.org and dnsbl.njabl.org, plus I have spamhaus feed
> using rbldnsd and rsync. All the dnsbl are set on postfix
> configuration
> 
> I use avira antivir like Virus Scanner.
> 
> Had to say this is not my first experience with MailScanner. I'm using
> it since 2004
> with success using both sendmail and postfix like MTA.
> 
> This time this scenario has a high traffic mail (about 3/4 millions
> every month).
> Ok after debugging both mailscanner and spamassassin I tried to put
> the thing in production environment.
> 
> After a while I noticed queues began to grow. I look at logs and seems
> problem appears during requeing (so after mailscanner checks). In
> short words: it works but it's slow and delays are noticeable.
> vmstat and top doesn't show any important bottleneck.   Postfix smtpd
> processes grows fast and they reach max in a few time.
> So I tried to block port 25 using a firewall and in 1 minute all
> queues empties....
> 
> 
> B)  So I tried to do this (thinking about postfix developers not
> loving Mailscanner)
> MTA on port 25:  Postfix
> MTA on port 26: Sendmail/MailScanner
> 
> So Postfix receives mail from Internet and then send them to Sendmail
> on port 26 that call MailScanner.
> Run the test and issue persists. And are always postfix queues to fill
> up.  Postfix people says that this happens because of postfix rate
> limit, so I cannot blame Postfix for this. For postfix people problem
> is still on MailScanner.
> 
> C) So I tried this:
> MTA on port 25:  Sendmail
> all other pieces of software like first env
> 
> Things do not come better. Delays persist and sendmail suffer.
> I tried two things:
> 1) disable spam checks and issue persists
> 2) disable mailscanner at all with no issue
> 
> 
> D) So I tried to use Sendmail but downgrade MailScanner to 4.61.7 (a
> release I'm sure it's working well since I have it in other recent
> production environment).
> 
> And... it works with no more issues.  Delays now are few seconds
> (againts 5-10-20 minutes)
> 
> Ah..so problem is MailScanner 4.67!?!?  All rights, let's put again
> Postfix using MailScanner 4.61.
> I do that and issue come back again......
> 
> So let's sum up:
> 
> Postfix 2.3.8 + MailScanner 4.67 =   ISSUES
> Postfix 2.3.8 + Sendmail 8.13 + MailScanner 4.67 = ISSUES
> Sendmail 8.13 + MailScanner 4.67 = ISSUES
> Sendmail 8.13 + MailScanner 4.61 = WORKS WITH NO ISSUES!!!!
> Postfix 2.3.8 + MailScanner 4.61 = ISSUES
> 
> This makes me mad.  Why this happens?
> 
> Like said before I have similar working installations (less traffic
> and using clamav in place of antivir). What's happening this time?
> 
> It seems postfix related (always) and mailscanner related (4.67)
> 
> Maybe postfix related?
> Maybe mailscanner related?
> Maybe drbd related?
> 
> Any helps or hints will be appreciated
> 
> Adding:  during postfix tests, I noticed in logs this:
> MailScanner[10310]: Cannot lock /tmp/AntiVirBusy.lock, Permission
> denied
> 
> /tmp/AntiVirBusy.lock is 600   Putting it 777 suppress log but does
> not resolve performance issue.
> This does not appear at all using sendmail
> 
> 
> Thanks
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