Request: Disable update.bad.phishing.sites job when phishing checks are disabled

Julian Field MailScanner at
Thu Apr 10 16:29:26 IST 2008

Gary Pentland wrote:
> Alex,
> If I have offended you, that was not my intention and I would like to apologise.
> It is my opinion that the default MailScanner install is good for those that don't know better, if you do know better than you can, if you choose to, improve on it.  In this case it was a trivial change that not many people are going to be requiring, whilst Julian and the community at large welcomes requests and suggestions he simply can't code them all!
I aim it squarely at a set of defaults that work, and a set that work 
well for most people most of the time, with a bias strongly in favour of 
those that do not know any better. If you don't like it, and know how to 
change it, then change it. If I like your idea, and other people like 
your idea too, then I'll tend to adopt it and implement it how and if I 
want to. I don't pretend to run a democracy :-)

And no insult or offence is intended, it's just that in this case I 
don't like your idea. That's my choice. If you don't like the way I run 
the project, you are also free to start up your own and write a 
competing product from scratch. Have fun doing the 12,000 hours of 
unpaid work required to get this far :-) That's about 7.3 years of a 
full-time job, with no salary. (Wow, those numbers are scary! :-)
> Julian, what are you on now?  About 12,000 hours of effort in MailScanner or there abouts?  I know it was a while ago when we talking about you having broken the 10,000 hours barrier...
Yes, it's somewhere between 11 and 12,000 hours work now. I passed the 
10,000 hour mark quite a long time ago. I think I implement the vast 
majority of ideas people come up with, usually fairly quickly :-)
> Anyway for the simpler changes, if you have the skills, help him out.  That way he can concentrate on the stuff no-one else can work out how to code:-)  That is what I meant by the beauty of open source code, its not roll-your-own for every fix or issue but a collaboration where you take on improvements that you do have the skills for and get improvements from others that you don't have the skills for.
Well put.


Julian Field MEng CITP CEng
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