Greetpause seems very ineffective (Was: RE: Increased Volumes Of Spam)

[Dennis Willson]

eMail has no guarantee of delivery or especially timing of delivery.

There are many many things that can effect the timing of delivery. If a 
lawyer or other business needs an instant or guaranteed time of delivery 
they certainly shouldn't be using eMail. Most servers retry within a few 
minutes. I have my greylisting set to only force a 2 minute delay AND 
this only occurs on the very first send form one user to another, each 
additional email is not delayed at all.

This is really not a valid excuse...

Res wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2007, Alex Neuman wrote:
>
>> In my particular case I've had to turn off greylisting for a few 
>> servers because the owners would rather throw more resources at the 
>> problem (cpu, ram, etc.) to check mail after it's received. Most 
>> people I know get used to the additional delay after a while, but 
>> there are some users who are more... let's call it "recalcitrant".
>>
>
>
> The problem with your annoyance at your paying customers who dont want 
> greylisting comment here is, business emails are time critical, it is 
> unacceptable to delay email destined for lawyers, real estates, 
> accountants and every other company where time is crucial, like those 
> vying for multi-million dollar contracts.
>
>
> Picture this:
>
> its 9.10am a QC is due in high court at 10am
>
> most hosting mail servers are very busy so its retry queue is set 
> hourly to avoid problems wih normal mail
>
> QC tells the barrister he needs that info NOW "email it to me"
> barrister sends email 15 seconds later.
>
> At 9.10 your grey laming said "i dunno if your a lamer or not try 
> again later"
>
> 9.40 QC must leave for court, its still not there.
>
> 10.00 its retried and accepted, ..tuff luck the QC is right now before 
> the full bench of the high court about to see his client slammed away 
> fo 30 years because of a lame mail server that delayed the crucial 
> evidence.
>
>
> OR what about the building sub contractor who just lost out on a 500 
> million dollar project to Donald Trump, he's going to think, if you 
> cant manage to get and read such a simple effortless thing like an 
> email in half an hour do I really want to deal with you.
>
> I dunno  maybe you people dont have time crucial customers :)
>