OT Fedora in production (as nstallation Problem on Fedora Core 8)

[Scott B. Anderson]

I'm not sure whether the topic is FC8 stability or MailScanner installation on it, but after obtaining 4.66-2, letting install.sh fail miserably, then going back to the build dir and simply 'make installing' in each of the failed installations, then running ./install.sh again, I was able to get MailScanner to run and --lint out properly, with clamav and mcafee scanners catching eicar, delivering scanned email on FC8 x86_64.

As for stability, whether you use apt-get, yum, cpan official, or cpan unofficial software, it will never work 100% of the time for every distribution of linux, or even releases of commercial uni*. Considering the complexity of the situation, my hat is off to everyone who figures out all the tweaks/hacks for installation for every build environment each a distro is updated or MailScanner is upgraded. Thank you very much.

Scott


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From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf Of Peter Farrow
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 9:14 AM
To: MailScanner discussion
Subject: Re: OT Fedora in production (as nstallation Problem on Fedora Core 8)

BTW:

 >>Anyway, I've been very happy using Fedora on my servers for years,
and will continue to do so. Others may decide to avoid it for things
like CentOS, but I >>prefer to keep more up-to-date with the more recent
stable releases of things!

Stability is demonstrated over time,  it doesn't come guaranteed by
simply using the latest versions..... have you checked Vista out
recently ;-)

P.


Anthony Cartmell wrote:
>> Centos is basically Red Hat Enterprise, the stable, standardised
>> fully tested production qaulity commercial grade and supported OS
>> from Red Hat.
>
> I don't think RedHat support CentOS... ;)
>
>> Fedora is the bleeding edge, experimental, non production version.
>
> Where does it say "experimental" or "bleeding edge"? My copy of Fedora
> has only stable versions of software installed (Apache, PHP, MySQL,
> sendmail, etc).
>
>> So just to recap Fedora is Experimental and not intended for
>> production use, as defined by the people that made it, and that
>> gentleman is as you you might say "straight from the horses mouth".
>> The people that created it say its less stable and experimental *by
>> design*, that is its purpose in life.
>
> Do you have a reference for that?
>
> I can only find articles where Fedora people recommend Fedora for
> production use, e.g. from Fedora Project Leader, Max Spevack
> (http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/17/177220) in
> August last year:
>
> "Anyone (Red Hat or non-Red Hat) who tells you that Fedora isn't
> suitable for a production server is wrong. If someone tells you that
> Fedora is "just a beta for RHEL", they too are wrong.
>
> Either the person is insufficiently informed about what Fedora is (and
> it's our job within Fedora to do that), or the person is purposefully
> misrepresenting Fedora and neglecting to tell the whole story, in
> which case it's our job within Fedora to call them out.
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives"
>
>> To use it in a production environment doing critical jobs is rather
>> less than wise.
>
> Not sure I agree with that. I've had no problems with it, even having
> upgraded releases with yum. It does have a shorter release cycle, but
> not as short as MailScanner does ;)
>
> Anyway, I've been very happy using Fedora on my servers for years, and
> will continue to do so. Others may decide to avoid it for things like
> CentOS, but I prefer to keep more up-to-date with the more recent
> stable releases of things!
>
> Cheers!
>
> Anthony
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