CRM114 How are you finding it ?

Randal, Phil prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk
Fri Aug 3 12:37:11 IST 2007


Using CentOS 5 x64, I installed according to the wiki as it was.

I had to make the crm114/*.crm files executable for it to work, so I
added that step to the wiki.

The only changes I made in crm114.cf were:

  crm114_learn 1
  crm114_autolearn 1
  crm114_dynscore_factor -0.2

Cheers,

Phil
--
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info 
> [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf 
> Of Glenn Steen
> Sent: 03 August 2007 10:59
> To: MailScanner discussion
> Subject: Re: CRM114 How are you finding it ?
> 
> On 03/08/07, Randal, Phil <prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk> wrote:
> > In mine it was
> >
> > #crm114_dynscore_factor -0.05
> >
> > And when I removed the # the scores went down dramatically.
> >
> Quite correct. The default (from crm114.pm) is
>   my $default_crm114_dynscore_factor = $conf->{required_score} / -25;
> ... which aims at calculating a normalizer value that would put a CRM
> score of (-)25 at your required SA spam score... I think this might
> not be the best of things, since the values can fluctuate quite a bit
> more than that, and I imagine most *don't* want CRM114 to be the sole
> deciding factor.
> Anyway, did you install according to the wiki page? If so, I obviously
> have made some changes that I've promptly forgot about(:-)... else the
> "default" in the crm114.cf file was what I mentioned.
> 
> > Phil
> >
> > --
> > Phil Randal
> > Network Engineer
> > Herefordshire Council
> > Hereford, UK
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info
> > > [mailto:mailscanner-bounces at lists.mailscanner.info] On Behalf
> > > Of Glenn Steen
> > > Sent: 03 August 2007 10:20
> > > To: MailScanner discussion
> > > Subject: Re: CRM114 How are you finding it ?
> > >
> > > On 03/08/07, Randal, Phil <prandal at herefordshire.gov.uk> wrote:
> > > > Actually, the documentation in the readme is not clear, but
> > > the default
> > > > is NOT -0.05.
> > > >
> > > Oh really? The file the install plopped into place could've
> > > fooled me...
> > > -----
> > > # dynamic score normalization factor
> > > # CRM score have much higher absolute values and different
> > > signs than SA scores
> > > # (usual ham-scores are between 15 and 40, scores from -10 to
> > > 10 are undecided,
> > > # previously seen spam easily gets -200).
> > > # With dynamic scoring the SA score is calculated by: <CRM
> > > score> * crm114_dynsc
> > > ore_factor
> > > #
> > > # Notes: - this has to be a negative number!
> > > #        - the absolute value should be quite low (certainly
> > > <.3, probably <=.2)
> > > ,
> > > #          otherwise the returned score would override all
> > > other tests.
> > > # default: calculate factor so that CRM-score -25 yields the
> > > SA required spam th
> > > reshold
> > > crm114_dynscore_factor -0.05
> > > -----
> > > So ... as a score "normalizer" and "sign changer" .... I 
> do believe
> > > I'm correct in stating that this is a "default" (very ... 
> relative...
> > > term that;-).
> > >
> > > So... If one don't want to have crm114 as the "sole 
> deciding factor",
> > > but rather as just another "score contributor"... I'd say 
> the -0.005
> > > would be reasonable... -0.2 would potentially give very 
> high values.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> -- Glenn
> email: glenn < dot > steen < at > gmail < dot > com
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