Why doesn't DCC help against image spam?

Ken A ka at pacific.net
Wed Dec 27 00:06:33 CET 2006



Glenn Steen wrote:
> On 26/12/06, Scott Silva <ssilva at sgvwater.com> wrote:
>> Scott Silva spake the following on 12/26/2006 10:27 AM:
>> > Ken A spake the following on 12/26/2006 9:50 AM:
>> >>
>> >> Scott Silva wrote:
>> >>> Glenn Steen spake the following on 12/26/2006 8:58 AM:
>> >>>> On 26/12/06, Scott Silva <ssilva at sgvwater.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Remco Barendse spake the following on 12/24/2006 7:43 AM:
>> >>>>>> Now that ORDB is down my mailscanner is not filtering any spam
>> >>>>>> anymore,
>> >>>>>> i might as well disable it.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> But out of curiosity, why doesn't DCC work for the image spam?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> A checksum should be reasonably effective against the image spam i
>> >>>>>> think? Assuming that they are not dynamically building each 
>> picture a
>> >>>>>> bit differently for each e-mail that is sent?
>> >>>>> But that could be what they are doing. Spammers are like 
>> cockroaches.
>> >>>>> They
>> >>>>> adapt very quickly, and after they mass-fire their crap, they 
>> change
>> >>>>> up a bit,
>> >>>>> and reload for the next salvo.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> It's war, and we are always on the defense.
>> >>>> Depressing but true... I think I'll have another Julsnaps... To
>> >>>> enliven my defenses... (If the snaps fails to do that.... well, at
>> >>>> least I'll be having more fun...:-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Seriously though, I think the only real effective defenses (on my
>> >>>> sysytems at least) against image-based spam has been a 
>> combination of
>> >>>> the digests (yes, they do take _some_ of it), RFC "strictness" 
>> checks
>> >>>> (in PF) and ImageInfo (and some TVD rules picked up by an 
>> sa-update).
>> >>>> When these fail I'll be going for FuzzyOcr (have just tested this so
>> >>>> far, but ... it really needs muscle that the production boxes lack).
>> >>>> Or someone really clever will have found another method:-).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ceers
>> >>> Since I have to work, have a Julsnaps for me!
>> >>>
>> >> "What's in a Julsnaps?", said the curious fellow in California?
>> >> I can't have one unless I know how to make it!
>> >> :-)
>> >> Ken A
>> >> Pacific.Net
>> > Glenn could answer this better, but it is an herbal liquor found in 
>> the Nordic
>> > regions of europe. It is usually served as close to frozen as you 
>> can get any
>> > form of alcohol. It has a distinct kind of nutty-fruity taste, and 
>> seems to
>> > have a fairly high alcohol content. I haven't had it for more than 
>> 20 years,
>> > but I still remember it. And I have not had anything like it since.
>> >
>> > So since you can't "make" it, you might be able to find some in a 
>> place like
>> > Bevmo in California. Some variations are called akvavit, but if I 
>> remember
>> > correctly, Julesnaps is a variety served around the christmas holidays.
>> >
>> Sorry -- meant to send that off-list.
> Well, off-topic, but basically correct.... Not that bad a performance 
> Scott;-).

Yep, bevmo was the ticket.
http://www.bevmo.com/productinfo.asp?sku=00000001131
How do you make Julesnaps seems to be like asking someone what your 
favorite eggnog recipe is. ;-)
Thanks,
Ken A.
Pacific.Net


> Actually, you can very well make your own... Get some basically
> flavourless alcohol (vodka style ... Absolut, if you can't get Renat
> or Brännvin Special or somesuch), put in the herbs/flavourings you
> like, steep for a few weeks (time depends on the herbs), strain it (my
> "cooking english" is even worse than my usual... "Remove all solid
> parts from the fluid"), coll it to about 4 degrees celsius (you _can_
> serve it warmer... but 4-8 degrees is best), serve in small vessels
> ... about 4-8 centiliters. Down them whole, or in quarter increments,
> preferably to pickeled herring(!), but should go well as a side drink
> to any food.
> Fennel and anis are common flavourings, but... you can experiment:-D.
> 
> If you're looking for the treat Scott is talking about it's probably
> Aalborgs Juleakvavit (made in Denmark), a very richly flavoured
> akvavit. One of my personal favourites... Then again, I like most of
> them (whether made in Denmark, Norway or Sweden:-).
> 
> Cheers



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