SA Timeouts

Martin Hepworth martinh at SOLID-STATE-LOGIC.COM
Wed Mar 16 10:33:11 GMT 2005


hmm ok - makes note of this, explains why this didn't worl very well on
my old 600mhz (load av 2) and works just fine on the new 2.8ghz (load
ave 0.1 and its doing other stuff as well).

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Julian Field wrote:
> No, the MailScanner-driven bayes rebuild in older versions did not lock
> out the other child processes successfully. In 4.40.5 this is fixed.
>
> What you can do is do the rebuild/expiry from a cron job at 3 in the
> morning.
>
> Jim Coates wrote:
>
>> Julian,
>>
>> Will doing what Martin suggested help this?
>>
>> "Sounds like SA is trying to tidy the bayes DB and timing out...
>>
>> make sure the following is set in MailScanner.conf
>>
>> # If you are using the Bayesian statistics engine on a busy server, # you
>> may well need to force a Bayesian database rebuild and expiry # at
>> regular
>> intervals. This is measures in seconds. # 1 day = 86400 seconds. # To
>> disable this feature set this to 0. Rebuild Bayes Every = 86400
>>
>> # The Bayesian database rebuild and expiry may take a 2 or 3 minutes # to
>> complete. During this time you can either wait, or simply # disable
>> SpamAssassin checks until it has completed. Wait During Bayes Rebuild
>> = yes
>>
>>
>> and in spam.assassin.prefs.conf
>>
>> # MailScanner: When using the scheduled Bayes expiry feature, you
>> probably #
>> MailScanner: want to turn off auto-expiry as it will rarely complete
>> before
>> # MailScanner: it is killed for taking too long. You will just end up
>> with #
>> MailScanner: big bayes_toks.new files wasting space. #
>> bayes_auto_expire 0"
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim Coates
>> Laridian, Inc.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Julian Field
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:02 PM
>> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>> Subject: Re: SA Timeouts
>>
>>
>> I have hopefully fixed the bayes expiry problems in the latest beta of
>> MailScanner. You will have to download and install that for the fix
>> for this
>> one. Or else put up with it until 1st April, when I will do the next
>> stable
>> release.
>>
>> Jim Coates wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Julian,
>>>
>>> They are all "bayes_toks.expire#####" files.
>>>
>>> Just today, I've had 103 of them (since midnight CST).
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
>>> Behalf Of Julian Field
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:33 AM
>>> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>> Subject: Re: SA Timeouts
>>>
>>>
>>> What are the filenames of a few of them?
>>>
>>> Jim Coates wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sure am...
>>>>
>>>> Jim Coates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
>>>> Behalf Of Julian Field
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:51 AM
>>>> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>>> Subject: Re: SA Timeouts
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you getting loads of stuff left in /root/.spamassassin/bayes* ?
>>>>
>>>> Jim Coates wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all;
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently upgraded SpamAssassin to 3.01 and have started having
>>>>> timeout issues.
>>>>>
>>>>> MailScanner's header report shows "X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam,
>>>>> SpamAssassin (timed out)"
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been watching the CPU and memory utilization and it doesn't seem
>>>>> to be that the server is having its resources eaten up, so I'm not
>>>>> really sure what's causing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I increased the spam check timeouts to 60 (they were 40 by default),
>>>>> but that doesn't seem to have corrected the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas as to what might be causing this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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