SA Timeouts

Jim Coates jimc at LARIDIAN.COM
Tue Mar 15 18:28:10 GMT 2005


Julian,

Ok.

Is there anything I need to disable to keep it from rebuilding outside of
the cron job?

And (sorry for being a noob), but what is the cron line for rebuilding
bayes?

Thanks,
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
Of Julian Field
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:22 PM
To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: SA Timeouts


No, the MailScanner-driven bayes rebuild in older versions did not lock out
the other child processes successfully. In 4.40.5 this is fixed.

What you can do is do the rebuild/expiry from a cron job at 3 in the
morning.

Jim Coates wrote:

>Julian,
>
>Will doing what Martin suggested help this?
>
>"Sounds like SA is trying to tidy the bayes DB and timing out...
>
>make sure the following is set in MailScanner.conf
>
># If you are using the Bayesian statistics engine on a busy server, # 
>you may well need to force a Bayesian database rebuild and expiry # at 
>regular intervals. This is measures in seconds. # 1 day = 86400 
>seconds. # To disable this feature set this to 0. Rebuild Bayes Every = 
>86400
>
># The Bayesian database rebuild and expiry may take a 2 or 3 minutes # 
>to complete. During this time you can either wait, or simply # disable 
>SpamAssassin checks until it has completed. Wait During Bayes Rebuild = 
>yes
>
>
>and in spam.assassin.prefs.conf
>
># MailScanner: When using the scheduled Bayes expiry feature, you 
>probably #
>MailScanner: want to turn off auto-expiry as it will rarely complete before
># MailScanner: it is killed for taking too long. You will just end up with
#
>MailScanner: big bayes_toks.new files wasting space. # bayes_auto_expire 0"
>
>
>Thanks,
>Jim Coates
>Laridian, Inc.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On 
>Behalf Of Julian Field
>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:02 PM
>To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>Subject: Re: SA Timeouts
>
>
>I have hopefully fixed the bayes expiry problems in the latest beta of 
>MailScanner. You will have to download and install that for the fix for 
>this one. Or else put up with it until 1st April, when I will do the 
>next stable release.
>
>Jim Coates wrote:
>
>
>
>>Julian,
>>
>>They are all "bayes_toks.expire#####" files.
>>
>>Just today, I've had 103 of them (since midnight CST).
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On 
>>Behalf Of Julian Field
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:33 AM
>>To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>Subject: Re: SA Timeouts
>>
>>
>>What are the filenames of a few of them?
>>
>>Jim Coates wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Sure am...
>>>
>>>Jim Coates
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On 
>>>Behalf Of Julian Field
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:51 AM
>>>To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>>Subject: Re: SA Timeouts
>>>
>>>
>>>Are you getting loads of stuff left in /root/.spamassassin/bayes* ?
>>>
>>>Jim Coates wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello all;
>>>>
>>>>I recently upgraded SpamAssassin to 3.01 and have started having 
>>>>timeout issues.
>>>>
>>>>MailScanner's header report shows "X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not 
>>>>spam, SpamAssassin (timed out)"
>>>>
>>>>I've been watching the CPU and memory utilization and it doesn't 
>>>>seem to be that the server is having its resources eaten up, so I'm 
>>>>not really sure what's causing it.
>>>>
>>>>I increased the spam check timeouts to 60 (they were 40 by default), 
>>>>but that doesn't seem to have corrected the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Any ideas as to what might be causing this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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