[OT] Bogus? Discuss it properly was(Re: Any suggestions to get spammed)

[David H.]

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Matt Kettler wrote:
> David Höhn wrote:
> 
> 
>>Ed Bruce wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>THis is a bad idea.
>>Why?
>>You _will_ poisin your bayes database. Your Companies MX has a very
>>specific way it deals with email and as such it most likely will be
>>targeted by a particular "flavour" of spam. Depending on your employees
>>preferences and so on. My advice, always, do NOT do that.
>>
>>test this out before pointing our company's MX
> 
> 
> 
> Bah. That's completely bogus.
> 
Well if it is, then show me empirical proof. We have tested numerous runs for
big customers and form them it is true.

> While this argument is VERY true for ham, it's completely NOT true for spam.
> 
It seems to be true here. Maybe because the number of employees or "receivers"
is very high and rather diverse.

> I forward the following statements as fundamental truths of spam
> 
> 1) spam is high volume, thus any given message reaches a large number of
> people.
Not necessarily true. It is unlikely that German SPAM reaches a large number
of US citizens. There _are_ Spammers that operate locally.

> 2) In order to increase volume, most spam is indiscriminate, and sent to
> as many addresses as possible.
See above. That might be true for a lot of simple spammer schemes, but
"professionals" tend to be more selective. Simply because that means more money.

> 3) Since most spam is indiscriminate, most flavors of spam do not have a
> "target" audience other than "everyone".

Well I cannotr quite follow that statement at all.

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But as I said, I am very well willing to discuss this off list.
Once more, it is an observation, _I_ have made and that is how I stated it. I
would appreciate it, if that isn't simply disregarded as "bogus" without
proper discussion. Thank you :)
- -d
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