Disclaimer Attachment- ONLY ONCE

[Martin Hepworth]

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Julian

I'd stay with Matt and others on this. besides the <not tested in court
legal disclaimer.h> issues it is nice double check that the outbound
email has been scanned by MS as you say of its original intention.

Also note that alot of the traffic on this list has the list unsubscribe
footer attached multiple times, esp when people top post (like me;-). So
ths problem isn't necessarilty the technology, but the use of it (people
don't trim the footers...).



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Martin Hepworth
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Solid State Logic
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Julian Field wrote:
> I think this is the best solution so far. A little Custom Function that
> looked at the Subject: to decide whether to add the sig or not should only
> be about 5 lines of code at most.
>
> On 26/10/04 2:01 am, "Marco Benton" <marco at XSSNET.COM> wrote:
>
>>to play devil's advocate...
>>
>>alot of companies use the <...barf...> disclaimers and MailScanner has
>>an easy way to add it, although not what inteded for.  not every company
>>has gurus and pointy-haired managers want certain things even tho they
>>dont make sense.  but is it right to *not* add that feature because of
>>l-users?
>>
>>i once wrote a Sendmail milter to add a disclaimer, before i found
>>MailScanner, and all i decided to do was append the disclaimer if it
>>wasnt a reply or forward.  pretty easy.  i'm sure if the poster wrote a
>>rule regex on the subject he can avoid the disclaimer being added so
>>many times.
>>
>>BOFH excuse #361: The cause of the problem is: Plasma conduit breach
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Matt Kettler wrote:
>>
>>
>>>At 07:33 PM 10/25/2004, Venkata Achanta wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Sorry may be i have to change the subject line to attract ppl to read my
>>>>message. I apologize if this is an incovenience for some of you.
>>>
>>>
>>>no inconvenience, but I don't see how this would be possible with
>>>MailScanner.
>>>
>>>MailScanner's "sign clean messages" feature is intended to have an notice
>>>that a message was virus scanned, not a legal disclaimer. Although many
>>>(use|abuse) it for this purpose.
>>>
>>>In the context of it's real purpose, it makes no sense for MS to "only
>>>add
>>>it once", as the virus scan would have to apply to each message
>>>separately,
>>>so should the signature stating there was a scan.
>>>
>>>To change it, Julian would have to add a bit of code to look for the
>>>signature (possibly with added line-wraps and >'s added) before
>>>inserting it.
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, I hope Julian doesn't add a "only once" feature, in the
>>>interest of encouraging people to not use MS for the purpose of adding
>>>legalese spam to all of their email.
>>>
>>>(Just as I wish he'd remove the bounce mis-feature, but he's at least
>>>decided to put a few hoops in before you can enable this dangerous
>>>feature,
>>>and I'm thankful for that much.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>if someone sends out a e-mail and get a repsonse and if he responds
>>>>
>>>>again
>>>>
>>>>>the disclaimer is getting attached again.if this happens X number of
>>>>
>>>>times
>>>>
>>>>>we end up having disclaimer attached X number of time as well which
>>>>
>>>>looks
>>>>
>>>>>ugly(better than spam though :-)) )
>>>
>>>
>>>Quite frankly, I feel that bulk-disclaimer-attachers are *worse* than
>>>spammers.
>>>
>>>They aren't even selling anything, they're just inserting garbage in
>>>email
>>>to cover their hind ends in the event of a  misdirected email by a
>>>careless
>>>employees. And quite frankly, I seriously question if the 'this
>>>message may
>>>be legally privileged' disclaimers even offer much, if any, useful legal
>>>protection. So not only are they selling nothing, they are also saying
>>>nothing of value, just wasting space on the world's disk drives to keep
>>>some high-level manager happy. Wonderful.
>>>
>>>For that matter, re-posters who cannot even wait 6 hours before reposting
>>>the same message with a different subject might be better suited by
>>>exercising a little patience.

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