Need clarification on whitelist rules
Dan Spray
danslists at CONPOINT.COM
Wed Oct 6 19:44:31 IST 2004
Okay, here is what I currently have in mailscanner.conf...
Is Definitely Not Spam = %rules-dir%/spam.whitelist.rules
And here is what I have in my spam.whitelist.rules file...
FromOrTo: default no
#To
To: dalder at conpoint.com no
To: tdickie at conpoint.com yes
To: randjnelson at conpoint.com yes
What else do I need? I believe that I have this setup correctly but please
correct me if I am wrong. With the above config I am seeing what I
described below.
Thanks for all your help with this,
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
Of Julian Field
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 10:09 AM
To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Need clarification on whitelist rules
In which case put a Custom Function on "Is Definitely Not Spam" (i.e. the
spam whitelist) and use that to mess with the list of recipients of the
message. That might work.
At 15:53 06/10/2004, you wrote:
>That is the problem though. I have a customer who has asked to be
>whitelisted so I add them to the spam.whitelist.rules file. Then a spam
>message comes in and is addressed to 10 people, ONE of which is the
customer
>that wanted to be whitelisted. The message however is declared whitelisted
>and is delivered to all 10 people even though it is actually scored as
spam.
>
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
Behalf
>Of Julian Field
>Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:32 AM
>To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>Subject: Re: Need clarification on whitelist rules
>
>Only if you are deleting it and not delivering it to the people who didn't
>whitelist it.
>For each recipient, you can either
>1) whitelist and deliver it
>2) delete it
>Then it's easy, and I've done it before.
>
>At 14:34 06/10/2004, you wrote:
> >Okay, so now that I am back in the office, is there anyway to avoid
having
> >all of the recipients whitelisted when just one of the recipients has
> >requested to be whitelisted?
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
>Behalf
> >Of Julian Field
> >Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:04 AM
> >To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >Subject: Re: Need clarification on whitelist rules
> >
> >At 15:26 01/10/2004, you wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK]On
> > > > Behalf Of Julian Field
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:10 AM
> > > > To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > > > Subject: Re: Need clarification on whitelist rules
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 14:56 01/10/2004, you wrote:
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: MailScanner mailing list
>[mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK]On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Julian Field
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 7:57 AM
> > > > > > To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Need clarification on whitelist rules
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > ><snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What you need is a Custom Function that edits the recipients
> > > > list in each
> > > > > > message, according to whether they want to be filtered or
> > > > not. I've done
> > > > > > something like this already, just haven't yet published it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What form would people like it in? Added to the per-user
> > > > white and black
> > > > > > list code?
> > > > > > It would have to be a simple "remove them from the message if
> > > > > > it's in their
> > > > > > blacklist or not in their whitelist".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can people see any problems with this? Something is nagging
> > > > me that this
> > > > > > isn't the correct functionality, but I can't see what the
> > > > right answer is
> > > > > > for definite.
> > > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >I guess my first question is how it's tagged as spam when there is
a
> >rule
> > > > >file for the spam scoring settings? If user A tagges as spam
> > > > with a score of
> > > > >5.0 and user B tagges it with a score of 7.5 how does the message
get
> > > > >tagged, since a score of 6.5 would flag as spam for user A and
> > > > ham for user
> > > > >B?
> > > >
> > > > We use it only for automatic spam deletion. In your example, user A
> >would
> > > > be removed from the list of recipients, and it would be normally
> >delivered
> > > > to user B. To use it for anything other than spam deletion is pretty
> >much
> > > > impossible.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > >Isn't this what you are proposing above?
> > >
> > > > > > It would have to be a simple "remove them from the message if
> > > > > > it's in their
> > > > > > blacklist or not in their whitelist".
> > >
> > >so if you handle the white/black listing here if it's spam and
>whitelisted
> > >don't remove them and if it's ham but blacklisted do remove them, or am
I
> > >missing something?
> >
> >
> > > I would think where every the per user scoring is checked
> > >if the whitelist/blacklist was checked as well it would simply adjust
the
> > >actual tagging as spam or ham the same as the scoring based tagging
>would,
> > >the difference being if it scores as 6.5 and the user threshold is 7.5
>but
> > >it's blacklisted it would be tagged as spam and not ham?
> >
> >I don't understand that sentence at all, sorry.
> >
> > > I'm sorry if I am
> > >coming across dense just looking for a way to simplify the overall code
> > >changes
> >
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