Suggested phishing net tuning (more examples)

Martin Hepworth martinh at SOLID-STATE-LOGIC.COM
Mon Nov 22 09:43:07 GMT 2004


Julian

What version can this Message.pm be applied to?

Also I know it's a pain, but would a full beta be better so us users can
  track where we are..

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Julian Field wrote:
> I have worked in checks for these and also for mailto links. Please keep
> providing the feedback, this is by nature a very fuzzy matching system
> and it will take time to perfect it.
>
> Quentin Campbell wrote:
>
>> Julian
>>
>> A difficult false positive example is:
>>
>> Nov 19 04:15:18 cheviot5 MailScanner[14191]: Found phishing fraud from
>> support at pegasusworks.com?subject=unsubscriberequest for
>> j.bloggs at ncl.ac.uk
>> claiming to be emailsupport at pegasusworks.com
>>
>> Is it impossible to parse this safely before comparing the strings?
>>
>> A more common type of false positive is:
>>
>> Nov 19 05:51:14 cheviot5 MailScanner[14163]: Found phishing fraud from
>> www.worldonaplate.com claiming to be worldonaplate.com
>>
>> I can see why you might be unwilling to remove the "www." from the actual
>> link before doing the comparison but is it really that unsafe?
>>
>> What is a good and useful feature still has a false positive rate that is
>> unacceptably high.
>>
>> Could your editing of the strings in the hypertext link be done more
>> aggressively before comparison? I know this may risk a possible rise in
>> the false negative rate but there are other detectors in MailScanner
>> which
>> you acknowledge have a non-zero false negative rate.
>>
>> I would be willing to see the false negative rate increase slightly in
>> order to reduce the number of times we cry "wolf!"
>>
>> Quentin
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