Mail Scanner and Spam Assassin report generation

brichter brichter at INTERACCESS.COM
Fri Mar 26 17:21:51 GMT 2004


Darn, so I loose that functionality of Spam Assassin by using Mail
Scanner?

I understand the point of adding the details to the headers, it makes it
easier when implementing for us since the reason it failed is in plain
text in the message that failed. When end users call our help desk, they
don't have to understand what a message header is, or the person on the
other end does not need to guide them through anything to find out
details..  It's only an issue for us now since we
originally ONLY had Spam Assassin in place, and Spam Assassin on it's own
passes that info in the BODY of the message which is configurable.

Now we have Mail Scanner
also. Is there a simple way I could patch Mail Scanner to take that, or
is it not that simple of a thing?

I only need it while I implement a scoring of 5.0 to see if we get any
false positives.  When we finish if 5.0 works we will go back to deleting
automatically anything that meets the minimum spam score.

I understand it's redundant, but to properly interface with Spam Assassin,
shouldnt you at least have the option to pass all possible Spam Assassin
details through?

Thanks


On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Julian Field wrote:

> All the SpamAssassin output that is added to the message by MailScanner is
> added in the headers. It doesn't stomp over the message body adding huge
> reports that mean very little to most recipients, I didn't think it was
> worth it (and still don't :-)
>
> At 15:40 26/03/2004, you wrote:
> >Mail Scanner version: mailscanner-4.25-14
> >Spam Assassin version: 2.63
> >
> >Question,
> >
> >When we first setup Spam Assassin in our enviornment way back, before we
> >automatically purged messages marked as spam, for the first couple of
> >weeks we allowed the messages to be delivered and allowed SPAM Assassin to
> >add it's text to the body of the orginal message indicating this could be
> >Spam and if it was not to contact our help desk etc.. (To see if we had
> >many false positives)  And at that time a score of 5.0 was too low. So we
> >went with 7.0 which wound up working well.  And after we found Mail
> >Scanner after that point we started deleting all SPAM with a 7.0 or more
> >score.
> >
> >Now we are going to try lowering our score back down to 5.0 and figured we
> >would DELETE automatically anything over 7.0 (treat that as HIGH scoring
> >spam) and anything 5.0 - 6.99 would be normal spam and we could deliver it
> >and have people let us know if we still get any false positives.  The
> >problem is I cannot for the life of me get the additional Spam Assasin
> >report appended to the original message after it's detected as Spam.
> >
> >If I run the Spam Assasin 2.63 exe in test mode against a test message it
> >puts the report in.
> >
> >If I send a message through the server so Mail Scanner then processes it,
> >it detects it as Spam properly, and modifies the subject line like I have
> >defined in the Mail Scanner conf.
> >
> >But it does not add this in: (I have tried listing this in
> >/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and in the spam assassin prefs in
> >Mailscanner without either working)
> >
> >clear_report_template
> >report -------------------- Start SpamAssassin results
> >----------------------
> >report This email facility identified this email as potential
> >report spam or content objectionable.  Email of this type is detected
> >report through a series of checks against the original message content.
> >report The "rules" on which the Spam determination was made are included,
> >report as well as the original message.
> >report
> >report If, in your opinion, this message is not Spam or content
> >report objectionable, please forward the message to the help desk for
> >report further evaluation.
> >report
> >report If for business reasons you need to receive messages that would be
> >report considered Spam, Junk Mail, or contain offensive content, please
> >report notify us and we will exempt you from ANY Spam/content
> >report filtering.
> >report
> >report Content analysis details:   (_HITS_ hits, _REQD_ required)
> >report _SUMMARY_
> >report ------ End of SpamAssassin results, Original message follows
> >--------
> >
> >This report IS appended to the test message if I pipe it through
> >spamassassin with -t (it picks it up in /etc/mail/spamassin/local.cf
> >
> >Thanks for any tips on this.
>
> --
> Julian Field
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