Postfix and Mailscanner sitting in a tree k-iss-ing

[avery]

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avery wrote:

> Drew Marshall wrote:
>
>> avery wrote:
>>
>>> Julian Field wrote:
>>>
>>>> avery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Drew Marshall wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Drew,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Awesome, Awesome, Awesome, thank you. I needed that information
>>>>>>> badly
>>>>>>> and so do others. I am making a proposal to expose this
>>>>>>> information. I
>>>>>>> just wanted someone to specifically state the reasons why things
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> changed. If more postfix users knew this they might not be so
>>>>>>> afraid of
>>>>>>> using Mailscanner with postfix. The postfix community is still
>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>> people not to use Mailscanner with postfix even though it seems a
>>>>>>> solution has been found. As of right this second the postfix
>>>>>>> experts on
>>>>>>> the postfix mailing list are telling people that it is not safe to
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> postfix and Mailscanner together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you have researched, Julian Field (I *can* spell that one!) and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Postfix development team don't see eye to eye (To put it mildly).
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> attitude from the Postfix end is do it our way or not at all,
>>>>>> which is
>>>>>> sad and not totally in the spirit of open source (IMHO), after all
>>>>>> what
>>>>>> difference is MS moving messages to the queue runner moving
>>>>>> messages?
>>>>>> Anyway I'm not going to stand on that soap box :-) . I love
>>>>>> MailScanner
>>>>>> as it's well documented, easy to configure and does loads of clever
>>>>>> stuff without me needing to know too much and it's always evolving
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> developing. Ironically, I love Postfix for the same reasons and it's
>>>>>> pretty quick too! Fortunately there is a neat way to make the two
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> together. One last point. If you ever want to 'hold' a message you
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> use Postfix to do so (As that is the MS interface) however
>>>>>> MailScanner
>>>>>> comes with great quarantine features which you can set up via rule
>>>>>> sets
>>>>>> which are much simpler than the regex required to make Postfix's
>>>>>> content
>>>>>> or header specific system work, just in case that one should
>>>>>> surface as
>>>>>> an argument... :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Drew,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree completely that Mailscanner is a awesome piece of
>>>>> software, so
>>>>> is postfix though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe this isn't my place to say this, but at least this sort of
>>>>> information should be on the Mailscanner website. The strength of
>>>>> GNU/GPL/OpenSource communities is all of the great information you
>>>>> can
>>>>> get that the proprietary world lacks so much of. Why not just openly
>>>>> state that the postfix community does not agree with how Mailscanner
>>>>> works with postfix and that Mailscanner has tried to accommodate the
>>>>> postfix community. No politics no bull just the facts. Then people
>>>>> like
>>>>> me are more educated on the subject and less people would be
>>>>> bothering
>>>>> the Mailscanner experts on the mailing list : ) . Sometime exposting
>>>>> the
>>>>> facts kills off the politics and drama.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of people like me are struggling to keep open source products a
>>>>> part of the IT infrastructure we work in. We sometimes have
>>>>> difficulty
>>>>> getting the facts, and a lot of people are getting scared away from
>>>>> Mailscanner because of this. I am not proposing changing anything,
>>>>> I am
>>>>> just saying lets expose the facts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be great if you could add this to the FAQ on the website.
>>>> It's
>>>> not a wiki but works very like one. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Julian,
>>>
>>> Thanks you for the info Mr. FAQ Administrator. Consider it done.
>>>
>>> Schrock
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok beat me to it! I'll leave to you Schrock. Feel free to mail me off
>> list if you need any help or more detail.
>>
>> Drew
>>
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>
> Drew,
>
> Awsome, you guys are great. I will do my best.
>
> Schrock
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Ok here it is.
http://www.sng.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailscanner/serve/cache/368.html
Thanks again Drew : )
Schrock

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