Postfix and Mailscanner sitting in a tree k-iss-ing

[Rodney Green]

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From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
Of avery
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 5:06 PM
To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: Postfix and Mailscanner sitting in a tree k-iss-ing


Drew Marshall wrote:

> avery wrote:
>
>> Julian Field wrote:
>>
>>> avery wrote:
>>>
>>>> Drew Marshall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Drew,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Awesome, Awesome, Awesome, thank you. I needed that information 
>>>>>> badly and so do others. I am making a proposal to expose this
>>>>>> information. I
>>>>>> just wanted someone to specifically state the reasons why things
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> changed. If more postfix users knew this they might not be so
>>>>>> afraid of
>>>>>> using Mailscanner with postfix. The postfix community is still
>>>>>> telling
>>>>>> people not to use Mailscanner with postfix even though it seems a
>>>>>> solution has been found. As of right this second the postfix
>>>>>> experts on
>>>>>> the postfix mailing list are telling people that it is not safe to
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> postfix and Mailscanner together.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As you have researched, Julian Field (I *can* spell that one!) and
>>>>> the
>>>>> Postfix development team don't see eye to eye (To put it mildly). The
>>>>> attitude from the Postfix end is do it our way or not at all,
>>>>> which is
>>>>> sad and not totally in the spirit of open source (IMHO), after all
>>>>> what
>>>>> difference is MS moving messages to the queue runner moving messages?
>>>>> Anyway I'm not going to stand on that soap box :-) . I love
>>>>> MailScanner
>>>>> as it's well documented, easy to configure and does loads of clever
>>>>> stuff without me needing to know too much and it's always evolving
>>>>> and
>>>>> developing. Ironically, I love Postfix for the same reasons and it's
>>>>> pretty quick too! Fortunately there is a neat way to make the two
>>>>> work
>>>>> together. One last point. If you ever want to 'hold' a message you
>>>>> can't
>>>>> use Postfix to do so (As that is the MS interface) however
>>>>> MailScanner
>>>>> comes with great quarantine features which you can set up via rule
>>>>> sets
>>>>> which are much simpler than the regex required to make Postfix's
>>>>> content
>>>>> or header specific system work, just in case that one should
>>>>> surface as
>>>>> an argument... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Drew,
>>>>
>>>> I agree completely that Mailscanner is a awesome piece of software, so
>>>> is postfix though.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe this isn't my place to say this, but at least this sort of
>>>> information should be on the Mailscanner website. The strength of
>>>> GNU/GPL/OpenSource communities is all of the great information you can
>>>> get that the proprietary world lacks so much of. Why not just openly
>>>> state that the postfix community does not agree with how Mailscanner
>>>> works with postfix and that Mailscanner has tried to accommodate the
>>>> postfix community. No politics no bull just the facts. Then people
>>>> like
>>>> me are more educated on the subject and less people would be bothering
>>>> the Mailscanner experts on the mailing list : ) . Sometime exposting
>>>> the
>>>> facts kills off the politics and drama.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of people like me are struggling to keep open source products a
>>>> part of the IT infrastructure we work in. We sometimes have difficulty
>>>> getting the facts, and a lot of people are getting scared away from
>>>> Mailscanner because of this. I am not proposing changing anything,
>>>> I am
>>>> just saying lets expose the facts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be great if you could add this to the FAQ on the website. It's
>>> not a wiki but works very like one. Thanks!
>>>
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>>
>>
>> Julian,
>>
>> Thanks you for the info Mr. FAQ Administrator. Consider it done.
>>
>> Schrock
>
>
> Ok beat me to it! I'll leave to you Schrock. Feel free to mail me off
> list if you need any help or more detail.
>
> Drew
>
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>Drew,

>Awsome, you guys are great. I will do my best.

>Schrock

I've definitely gotten the third degree from the postfix users list
regarding MailScanner. I continue to use it because it just works. I've been
using it for well over a year now without any major problems. People on the
postfix list can be brusque. While I respect Mr. Venema, I believe that
MailScanner is an effective solution to run along with Postfix.

Rod

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