F-prot revisited

[G. Armour Van Horn]

Richard,

Ditto the IANAL disclaimer. I've been thinking about buying the $30 license
myself, in fact, I stopped writing this sentence long enough to go pay for one.

I also went and read the page you mention, plus the "fine print" at the end of
the purchasing product. Since I am not incorporated, and all of my mailservers
are actually located in the garage attached to my home, I believe I am fully
authorized, entitled, licensed, allowed, and encouraged to run this puppy as
part of MailScanner with no payment whatsoever.

I saw nothing on their site that suggests that commercial use by an individual
proprietor (or partnership, for that matter) requires payment.

Van

Richard Ahlquist wrote:

> Alan,
>
> First let me stat IANAL. I have followed comments on the list about F-prot
> since they changed their license. I have been running the workstation
> command line version since day one and will most likely continue to do so
> until something better comes along.
>
> Here is my issue with what you said though. I looked at the workstation
> license and to say its vague is an understatement, nowhere in the page I saw
> ( http://www.f-prot.com/support/helpfiles/unix/linux_ws/license.html ) did
> it state you cannot use the product in conjunction with MailScanner or in
> any type of automated system or even on a system running a mail
> server/daemon/thingamabob.
>
> As a matter of fact on this page (
> http://www.f-prot.com/support/helpfiles/unix/linux_ws/comm_scan.html ) it
> specifically mentions that it can be called from other applications.
>
> Also please note, no where in the license for the product do they mention a
> definition of what the difference is between a workstation and anything
> else.
>
> So unless F-prot has posted the wrong licensing info to their site there is
> nothing in writing that I see that says I cant use their command line
> scanner to scan the files on my system. Whether they are being copied from
> one folder to another by hand or by sendmail.
>
> Just my 2cents. Take them or leave them.
>
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MailScanner mailing list [mailto:MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
> Of Alan Fiebig
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 1:56 AM
> To: MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: F-prot revisited
>
> Sorry about the delay in responding, been busy lately :)
>
> ###############################
> 1)
>
> >On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Alan Fiebig wrote:
> >
> >> While F-Prot's $29 Linux workstation version is all you technically need
> >> to run with MailScanner, per F-Prot, you would be in violation of their
> >> license. Their expensive 'per user' mail server version contains a whole
>
> >On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Steffan replied back:
> >
> >But they don't sell the command line version for servers ! They just sell
> >bigger products - and we don't need that, we use MailScanner.
>
> I know, that is my entire point. They only sell the stand alone command line
> scanner for workstations.
>
> To comply with the F-Prot license, you have to buy the big mail server
> product, which is expensive due to it being priced per mailbox. Then, after
> buying the big package, you end up only using a tiny portion of it, the
> command line scanner. All the rest of the product was waisted since you
> don't need it for MailScanner.
>
> If you were to buy the inexpensive, $29 workstation command line scanner, it
> would work perfectly with MailScanner. But then you would be in violation of
> F-Prot's license.
>
> ###############################
> 2)
>
> >Even on the CA page, I didn't see a final price for the product I need,
> >but maybe at that time I was already too tired after trying to find a
> >price.
>
> That's because you don't buy it from CA, you buy it from a reseller.
> In my earlier post, I mentioned that the lowest price for e-Trust is $129
> for a 5 node license.
> The price has now come down a bit. You can find it at CDW for example:
>    http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=475675
>
> ###############################
> 3)
>
> >On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, G. Armour Van Horn replied back:
> >
> >Based on your comments, I went looking for the product. I found
> >http://www.my-etrust.com/ and browsed around a bit, even
> >asked "Sammy" about Linux, but didn't see a trace of anything but
> >Windows software. If I buy the five-pack, is there a Linux version
> >in there somewhere, or can you post a URL that gets to the Linux version?
>
> In the 5 node license I mentioned, which now sells for $109 from CDW, you
> get 11 different versions included:
>
>   1) Windows - Win95 on up, workstations and servers
>   2) Linux
>   3) Exchange
>   4) Lotus Notes/Domino
>   5) Stand alone firewall
>   6) PocketPC PDA
>   7) Palm PDA
>   8) Macintosh
>   9) Proxy servers - Microsoft and Apache
>  10) Novell servers
>  11) Sun Solaris
>
> Use as many or as few of the versions as you wish on up to 5 hosts, all for
> $109.
>
> -Alan

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