very urgent problem with MailScanner + postfix

[Ron E.]

Yep - that was my problem & solution, too - reinstalled and all was well.

-Ron

On Sat, 8 Nov 2003, Julian Field wrote:

> I had 2 servers this morning that I was looking at. One was freezing when
> starting razor (couldn't contact the razor servers) while the other one
> worked fine. On the one causing trouble, I wipe /.razor and /etc/razor,
> downloaded and installed the latest razor distribution and everything is
> working fine on both servers now.
>
> There's probably a neat and quick way of refreshing all the server
> information without reinstalling, but re-installing only took 5 minutes anyway.
>
> At 20:13 07/11/2003, you wrote:
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Ron E. [mailto:ree at THUNDERSTAR.NET]
> > > Envoyé : Friday, November 07, 2003 12:59 PM
> > > À : MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > > Objet : Re: very urgent problem with MailScanner + postfix
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Julian
> > >
> > > Ok, so now I've got the output - biggest slow appears to be razor -
> > > connection attempts that fail...
> > >
> > > Anyone know how to selectively turn off razor/pyzor/dcc?
> > >
> >I think you must set all tests concernig dcc to 0 in spam.assassin.prefs.conf
> >
> >Ugo
> >
> > > -Ron
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Julian Field wrote:
> > >
> > > > Set "Debug = yes" as well and it will all appear on your terminal.
> > > >
> > > > At 16:51 07/11/2003, you wrote:
> > > > >Hm, thanks - I started with Debug SpamAssassin = yes but I
> > > don't see any
> > > > >debug data in maillog - do I need to look elsewhere?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Vosburgh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Try setting "Debug = yes" and "Debug SpamAssassin = yes" in your
> > > > > > MailScanner.conf file.  Alternatively, you could try to just run
> > > > > > spamassassin manually on a message in debug mode:
> > > spamassassin -D -t <
> > > > > > message_file.  If you choose the latter, make sure your
> > > (if run as root)
> > > > > > /.spamassassin/user_prefs is the same as your MS
> > > > > > spam.assassin.prefs.conf so you get the same behavior.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron E. wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Well, interestingly enough, after the backlog cleared
> > > out, I restarted the
> > > > > > >incoming postfix and very rapidly developed another
> > > backlog - and now I'm
> > > > > > >having the same problem you had - ie - SpamAssassin
> > > timed out and was
> > > > > > >killed...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Any idea how to get SpamAssassin to log everything
> > > it's doing so I can see
> > > > > > >where it's bombing out - I've got DCC/razor/pyzor
> > > going but I've disabled
> > > > > > >the RBLs temporarily - just going really, really slow.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I will try the lower scanning settings as below...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-Ron
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Vosburgh wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >>I had a different message - "SpamAssassin timed out
> > > and was killed,
> > > > > > >>consecutive failure 1 of 20", but the same general
> > > problem (extreme
> > > > > > >>slowness delivering mail).  My actual problem turned
> > > out to be an
> > > > > > >>ex-user that was forwarding corporate email to a
> > > hotmail account that
> > > > > > >>had hit it's quota. His email was getting bounced
> > > back and forth,
> > > > > > >>growing all the time.  After we changed his alias to
> > > /dev/null and
> > > > > > >>restarted MS, the queue cleared very quickly.  I've
> > > since reduced the
> > > > > > >>number of messages scanned in one pass, Max
> > > Unscanned/Unsafe Messages
> > > > > > >>Per Scan, from 30 (default) to 10.  FWIW, it does
> > > appear that my system
> > > > > > >>(Sun 220R w/ 2x450Mhz,1GB RAM) is "happier" with this setting.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Dave
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>Ron E. wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>>Great, thanks Dave - yes I just found Monkeys still
> > > in my RBL list
> > > > > so I'll
> > > > > > >>>check further but just based on that my performance
> > > has gone way up
> > > > > > >>>already.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>Did you also have the problem with duplicate
> > > truncated messages being
> > > > > > >>>delivered? And messages in the maillog about
> > > messages "still being
> > > > > > >>>delivered"?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>-Ron
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, David Vosburgh wrote:
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>>I had a similar problem several weeks ago.  I'd
> > > first take a look at
> > > > > > >>>>your mail log file for signs of any delays while
> > > running MS.  In my
> > > > > > >>>>particular case, there were SA timeouts during MS
> > > processing.  If you
> > > > > > >>>>want to jump the gun, you could just disable SA in
> > > the mailscanner
> > > > > > >>>>config file, restart MS, and see if things speed
> > > up.  If it is SA, then
> > > > > > >>>>turn on debugging to see where things are slowing
> > > down.  You should
> > > > > look
> > > > > > >>>>at the various net checks going on there
> > > (razor/pyzor/dcc and any
> > > > > > >>>>RBL's).  You could selectively disable each one at
> > > a time in the
> > > > > > >>>>spam.assassin.prefs.conf file to see which one is
> > > causing problems.
> > > > > > >>>>Also, several RBL's have gone out of business in
> > > the last few
> > > > > > >>>>months...you should make sure you aren't using them.
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>Dave
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>Ron E. wrote:
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>Hopefully someone will see this very shortly.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>Several days ago I posted a message about the same
> > > problem where
> > > > > > >>>>>mailscanner begins to backlog and errors about
> > > messages "still being
> > > > > > >>>>>delivered" show up in the maillog, with hardly any
> > > messages passed by
> > > > > > >>>>>mailscanner to the mta.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>I've since upgraded to 4.24-5 due to a backlog
> > > starting to happen
> > > > > again
> > > > > > >>>>>but it never cleared up and is unfortunately much
> > > worse this time
> > > > > - (much
> > > > > > >>>>>larger backlog).
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>I've temporarily stopped the incoming postfix to
> > > give mailscanner
> > > > > a chance
> > > > > > >>>>>to catch up, but need some debugging here to get
> > > the backlog
> > > > > cleared out
> > > > > > >>>>>as fast as possible and to fully fix this...
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>Any help would be appreciated.
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>Thanks,
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>Ron
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >>>>--
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>Dave Vosburgh
> > > > > > >>>>Sr. Unix System Administrator
> > > > > > >>>>Dallas Semiconductor
> > > > > > >>>>vosburgh at dalsemi.com  972-371-4418
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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