when is Bayes scoring used?

Dene Ulmschneider dene at DATATECHIE.COM
Tue May 6 19:17:08 IST 2003

The sa-learn -D --rebuild returned the following output:

debug: Score set 0 chosen.
debug: running in taint mode? no
debug: using "/usr/share/spamassassin" for default rules dir
debug: using "/etc/mail/spamassassin" for site rules dir
Failed to create default user preference file /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs
debug: using "/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs" for user prefs file
debug: bayes: 17204 tie-ing to DB file R/O /root/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
debug: bayes: 17204 tie-ing to DB file R/O /root/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
debug: debug: Only 87 spam(s) in Bayes DB < 200
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing db_toks
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing db_seen
debug: Score set 0 chosen.
debug: Initialising learner
debug: Initialising learner
debug: lock: 17204 created
debug: lock: 17204 trying to get lock on /root/.spamassassin/bayes with 0
debug: lock: 17204 link to /root/.spamassassin/bayes.lock: link ok
debug: bayes: 17204 tie-ing to DB file R/W /root/.spamassassin/bayes_toks
debug: bayes: 17204 tie-ing to DB file R/W /root/.spamassassin/bayes_seen
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing db_toks
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing db_seen
debug: bayes: files locked, now unlocking lock
debug: unlock: 17204 unlink /root/.spamassassin/bayes.lock
debug: bayes: 17204 untie-ing

Does anything look wrong? I am shocked to find that only 87 messages have
been recorded so far, but that's what the output states.

Thanks for the help.


At 11:38 AM 5/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>I think you need 200 spam and 200 ham.  Try running spamassassin with the
>-D switch for debug and see what it says about bayes.  Also, you can run
>the check_bayes_db command and see how many spam and ham have been
>learned.  And you can run "sa-learn -D --rebuild" and see if it says
>anything about there not being enough spam or ham.  These may give you
>some clues to your questions.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dene Ulmschneider [mailto:dene at DATATECHIE.COM]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 10:53 AM
>Subject: Re: [MAILSCANNER] when is Bayes scoring used?
>Hey Julian et all-
>In regards to all of the messages I have read that Bayes will not start
>working until the magic number of 200 messages is reached, I am certain
>that I have processed more than 200 messages and yet I still see no
>"Bayes" entries in the headers.
>I have checked the files in /root/.spamassassin and found the following:
>filename                size            date modified
>auto-whitelist          644.0 kb        today
>auto-whitelist.db       12.0 kb         3.28.03
>bayes_msgcount  3.2 kb          today
>bayes_seen              1.3 mb          today
>bayes_seen.db           4.0 kb          3.28.03
>bayes_toks              2.6 mb          today
>bayes_toks.db           12.0 kb         3.28.03
>while I was checking these files - I saw that a new file was created and
>then deleted called auto-whitelist.lock, due to the fact that the system
>starting processing mails at this time.
>The questions that I have are:
>1-according to previous statements about the size of bayes_msgcount, have
>I only correctly processed 3 or 4 emails?
>2-why are all of the .db files form a month and a half ago?
>3-why are there still no headers containing anything regarding Bayes?
>Am I missing something. I have had MailScanner running for about 2 months
>now and am certain that I have processed enough emails.
>Any help is appreciated.
>Thank You
>Dene Ulmschneider
>Data Techie Inc.
>office:         718.738.8859
>email:          dene at datatechie.com
>pager mail:     denenow at datatechie.com
>website:        www.datatechie.com
>"Life is too short...-...you  should have dessert first"
>At 02:29 PM 5/6/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>>At 14:18 06/05/2003, you wrote:
>>>Well i have just setup mailscanner 4.20-3 and i have some problemes
>>>with bayes "scoring".
>>>I have the bayes database working as it s modified each time i receive
>>>a mail but when i gor spam i never seen BAYES_DB tag in the scoring of
>>>Is there a minim size of the bayes database in order to be uzed for
>>It won't start using the results of the Bayes data until 200 messages have
>>been scanned. The bayes_msgcount file will tell you how many it has scanned
>>(file size == number of messages).
>>>Thanks in advance for any help
>>>the command
>>>check_bayes_db -db /var/spool/spamassassin/bayes | head -8
>>>0.000        0        0        0  non-token data: db format = on-the-fly
>>>expiry, scan-counting
>>>0.000        0       16        0  non-token data: nspam
>>>0.000        0     1233        0  non-token data: nham
>>>0.000        0    51394        0  non-token data: ntokens
>>>0.000        0        0        0  non-token data: oldest age
>>>0.000        0     1382        0  non-token data: current scan-count
>>>0.000        0        0        0  non-token data: last expiry scan-count
>>>0.027        0        8      801  english
>>>Eric Doutreleau
>>>I.N.T                   | Tel   : +33 (0) 160764687
>>>9 rue Charles Fourier   | Fax   : +33 (0) 160764321
>>>91011 Evry   France     | email : Eric.Doutreleau at int-evry.fr
>>Julian Field
>>MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support
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