I am using clamav with mailscanner and it looks like it never teies to update the virus def files. if i look through the log i never se eit trying. I can run the auto update script with no problems and that leaves a message in my log files. DO i need to set something for it to use the autoupdate ?? Rob Vicchiullo robv at disaster.com http://www.disaster.com (518) 218-0900