Porn msg identification?

Tue Apr 8 19:33:22 IST 2003

Hey, sometimes people swear/cuss/or whatever your name is for it in e-mails, sometimes multiple times etc.  I just wanted to point
that out.  What e-mails is MailScanner w/ SpamAssassin not blocking are you using RBLs/DNSBLs?  If not start and it should greatly
help your problem; if you are using them, which ones because you likely need to use some additional ones as well.

Check out this link (stats not that old) for an example of how effective this is: http://www.huffdatasystems.com/mailstats/

Only SPAM I have issues with are ones in foreign languages which are not too many at the moment, and I am working getting that issue
resolved.

Regards,

Donovan Huff
Owner/Operator
HUFF DATA SYSTEMS
donovan at huffdatasystems.com
http://www.huffdatasystems.com/
(361) 781-0631

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mariano Absatz" <mailscanner at LISTS.COM.AR>
To: <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: Porn msg identification?

> Hi Rich,
>
> The point is that MailScanner doesn't know anything about scoring messages...
> the spam score you see in MailScanner is actually done by the SpamAssassin
> library that MailScanner optionally uses.
>
> Now, _that_ library, including the rules that come with it, is developed and
> optimized to tag as much spam as possible _avoiding_ as many false positives
> as it can.
>
> Thus, SpamAssassin scans the message looking for patterns and it adds or
> substracts from the score as some conditions are met or not...
>
> You _could_ create a different set of rules for SpamAssassin and invoke it
> twice, once for spam detection and the other for "adulthood" detection, but
> that would imply at least modifying MailScanner and using a secondary set of
> SpamAssassin rules... it _will_ require some time and an effort to do it...
>
> El 8 Apr 2003 a las 13:10, Richard D Alloway escribió:
>
> > Thanks for everyone's input for my problem, but I think the goal I am
> > trying to work towards is being lost in translation :)
> >
> > What I think would be a great feature is to allow custom rulesets.  The
> > more I think about it, the more I think being able to create a customer
> > header for the custom ruleset would be the way to go.
> >
> > I imagine it working just like the Spam Score Header.
> >
> > Based on the score from the ruleset file (in my case, I'd create an adult
> > language file) with scores per word, a custom header could be created
> > which shows the "severity" of the language:
> >
> > Custom Score Header = X-MailScanner-Maturity:
> >
> > Custom Score Header = A
> >
> > Custom Score Ruleset = /etc/MailScanner/rules/Maturity.rules
> >
> > /etc/MailScanner/rules/Maturity.rules could contain:
> > frick   1
> > frack   5
> >
> > Then, a message which contains the word 'frick' 3 times and 'frack' once
> > would have a score of 8, so a header of:
> > X-MailScanner-Maturity = AAAAAAAA
> >
> > A customer who wishes to never receive emails with any of the words in the
> > list can filter on the X-MailScanner-Maturity header containing 'A'.
> >
> > A customer who wishes to receive mildly mature emails can filter on the
> > X-MailScanner-Maturity header containing 'AAAA', and so on...
> >
> > This way, the email is delivered to the customer and the customer has the
> > option of deleting, moving to another folder, or doing nothing with the
> > email.
> >
> > The reason I can't use the high score action, etc is that we delete spam
> > with a high score.
> >
> > As an ISP, we do not force adult/mature content filtering on our
> > customers, but would like to offer a solution that empowers the end user
> > to decide the level of filtering.
> >
> > Thanks for hearing me out...again :)
> >
> > -Rich
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Julian Field wrote:
> >
> > > At 01:48 08/04/2003, you wrote:
> > > >Hmmm...  I don't think that will satisfy my customers.
> > > >
> > > >The problem is the language as well as the images contained within porn
> > > >spam.
> > > >
> > > >The issue with setting the scores very high is that some customers will
> > > >want to receive "adult" emails while others don't want to receive any.
> > >
> > > Which is why you can set the spam high score using a ruleset so that
> > > different users get different scoring thresholds.
> > >
> > > >If there was a generic way to build a ruleset to modify the subject line
> > > >(or add/modify a header), that would probably take care of it! :)
> > > >
> > > >Any chance something like this could be in MailScanner's future? *hint
> > > >hint*  ;)
> > > >
> > > >-Rich
> > > >
> > > >On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Julian Field wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The problem of nasty porn spam can largely be solved with the "striphtml"
> > > > > spam action, as it removes all images from spam. In case it's not really
> > > > > spam, all the links in the message are maintained, but you don't have to
> > > > > suffer the images. This is keeping most of my users happy here.
> > > > >
> > > > > At 18:10 07/04/2003, you wrote:
> > > > > >Hi there!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I was wondering if anyone had come up with a way to add a header or
> > > > > >perhaps prepend the subject line with something like {Porn?} based on the
> > > > > >language/content of an email?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I want to be able to give our users something they can filter their mail
> > > > > >against if they don't want to receive ANY adult messages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Our customers like the ability to filter against {Spam?} in the subject
> > > > > >line for possible spam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-Rich
>
> --
> Mariano Absatz
> El Baby
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