Need help badly...

Julian Field jkf at ecs.soton.ac.uk
Tue May 21 16:42:14 IST 2002


At 16:33 21/05/2002, you wrote:
>Wow! ok great. So why was the Cobalt RaQ4 configured with the multiple queue
>directories feature to begin with?

If you have absolutely enormous mail traffic, then on some OS's this can
produce better performance. On Solaris it makes a difference, on Irix it
makes no difference at all. I can't remember whether Linux ext2 implements
directories as lists (bad) or trees (good). Irix dynamically changes
between lists and 2 different types of tree depending on the number of
files in a directory, and it flies as a result.

>Will I putting my server at risk if I do so?

No.

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Julian Field" <jkf at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK>
>To: <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 8:38 PM
>Subject: Re: Need help badly...
>
>
> > Aha!
> > Now we have a cause for the problem. You never told me there were
> > directories under your mqueue and/or mqueue.in directories.
> >
> > If you look near the top of your /etc/sendmail.cf (or possibly
> > /etc/mail/sendmail.cf) you will find a definition for
> > O QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue/q*
> > (it will read something like that). Knock the "/q*" off the end so it just
> > reads
> > O QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue
> > and restart both your sendmail processes.
> >
> > Then you should find it starts to deliver the messages.
> >
> > MailScanner still doesn't support multiple outgoing queue directories
> > (sorry about that, haven't had the time to write support for it, which is
> > non-trivial).
> >
> > At 15:21 21/05/2002, you wrote:
> > >Hi Julian,
> > >
> > >Thanks for responding to my messages... I am still in deep trouble.
> > >
> > >I've responded below to your questions.
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Julian Field" <jkf at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK>
> > >To: <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 6:37 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Need help badly...
> > >
> > >
> > > > At 13:53 21/05/2002, you wrote:
> > > > >HI Julian,
> > > > >
> > > > >The weird part is that if I do a mailq it does not display all these
> > > > >messages.
> > > > >
> > > > >but the messages are there in the mqueue folder.
> > > >
> > > > You haven't broken the soft link joining /var/spool/mqueue to
> > > > /home/spool/mqueue have you? If all the files are there (one df and
>one qf
> > > > for each message) then mailq should display them.
> > >
> > >
> > >I don't think so...  Can you see if this is what you are saying?
> > >
> > >[root spool]# pwd
> > >/var/spool
> > >
> > >
> > >[root spool]# ls -l
> > >total 12
> > >drwxr-xr-x   4 root     root         1024 May 21 01:13 MailScanner
> > >drwx------   2 root     root         1024 May 21 07:13 cron
> > >drwxrwxr-t   2 root     mail         8192 May 21 19:42 mail
> > >lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           23 Mar 16 06:52 mqueue ->
> > >../../home/spool/mqueue
> > >lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root           21 May 21 01:20 mqueue.in ->
> > >/home/spool/mqueue.in
> > >drwxr-xr-x   2 root     mail         1024 May 21 01:21 mqueue.in.old
> > >drwxrwxrwt   2 root     root         1024 May 24  2001 samba
> > >
> > >
> > >I renamed the mqueue.in folder created by mailscanner to mqueue.in.old
> > >
> > >Could that have cause all the trouble?
> > >
> > >
> > >Here is the contents of /home/spool
> > >
> > >
> > >[root spool]# pwd
> > >/home/spool
> > >
> > >[root spool]# ls -l
> > >total 46
> > >drwxrwxr-x   2 root     mail         8192 May 21 10:59 mail
> > >drwxr-xr-x   6 root     root        35840 May 21 13:38 mqueue
> > >drwxr-xr-x   2 root     root         2048 May 21 13:38 mqueue.in
> > >
> > >
> > >Does it look ok?
> > >
> > >
> > >Here is the output of 'ls mqueue'
> > >
> > >[root spool]# ls mqueue
> > >dfg4KJqsW26104  dfg4L0iTW10067  dfg4L49FW22013  dfg4L5s2W28853  q4
> > >qfg4L0fxW09940  qfg4L47GW21913  qfg4L5s0W28852
> > >dfg4KJrrW26181  dfg4L0kjW10170  dfg4L4CRW22194  dfg4L5sIW28861
> > >qfg4KJqsW26104  qfg4L0iTW10067  qfg4L49FW22013  qfg4L5s2W28853
> > >dfg4KJsTW26254  dfg4L0lQW10202  dfg4L4CVW22204  dfg4L5sLW28864
> > >qfg4KJrrW26181  qfg4L0kjW10170  qfg4L4CRW22194  qfg4L5sIW28861
> > >dfg4KJuGW26351  dfg4L0lVW10222  dfg4L4CWW22206  dfg4L5sMW28880
> > >qfg4KJsTW26254  qfg4L0lQW10202  qfg4L4CVW22204  qfg4L5sLW28864
> > >.
> > >.        <STRIPPED DOWN OUTPUT>
> > >.        <STRIPPED DOWN OUTPUT>
> > >.
> > >dfg4L0OrW09053  dfg4L446W21748  dfg4L5qFW28659  dfg4L87AW05107
> > >qfg4L0OAW09022  qfg4L426W21646  qfg4L5qDW28657  qfg4L86uW05062
> > >dfg4L0SuW09226  dfg4L45bW21816  dfg4L5qPW28663  dfg4L87BW05113
> > >qfg4L0OrW09053  qfg4L446W21748  qfg4L5qFW28659  qfg4L87AW05107
> > >dfg4L0UOW09316  dfg4L45gW21818  dfg4L5qrW28728  dfg4L87TW05151
> > >qfg4L0SuW09226  qfg4L45bW21816  qfg4L5qPW28663  qfg4L87BW05113
> > >dfg4L0ZBW09585  dfg4L45sW21830  dfg4L5r2W28749  dfg4L88cW05223
> > >qfg4L0UOW09316  qfg4L45gW21818  qfg4L5qrW28728  qfg4L87TW05151
> > >dfg4L0beW09723  dfg4L46nW21878  dfg4L5rAW28753  q1
> > >qfg4L0ZBW09585  qfg4L45sW21830  qfg4L5r2W28749  qfg4L88cW05223
> > >dfg4L0eYW09863  dfg4L476W21911  dfg4L5rbW28802  q2
> > >qfg4L0beW09723  qfg4L46nW21878  qfg4L5rAW28753
> > >dfg4L0fxW09940  dfg4L47GW21913  dfg4L5s0W28852  q3
> > >qfg4L0eYW09863  qfg4L476W21911  qfg4L5rbW28802
> > >
> > >
> > >And here is the word count...
> > >
> > >[root spool]# ls mqueue | wc
> > >    1446    1446   21642
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >I tried to do a sendmail -q15m  ........ no joy. it just exits.
> > > >
> > > > In which case try sendmail -v -q15m and see what that prints.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I tried that..... it says nothing.
> > >
> > >If I do a mailq is shows the following output....
> > >
> > >
> > >                 /var/spool/mqueue/q1 (1 request)
> >
> >----Q-ID---- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient--------
>-
> > >---
> > >g4IIAZs26896*     262 Sat May 18 23:40 mail
> > >                  (Deferred: Connection timed out with forserve.com.)
> > >                                        ftmanlfrbu at forserve.com
> > >/var/spool/mqueue/q2 is empty
> > >                 /var/spool/mqueue/q3 (1 request)
> >
> >----Q-ID---- --Size-- -----Q-Time----- ------------Sender/Recipient--------
>-
> > >---
> > >g4JHnto03977*     262 Sun May 19 23:19 mail
> > >                  (Deferred: Connection timed out with juserve.com.)
> > >                                        cpwijaxi at juserve.com
> > >/var/spool/mqueue/q4 is empty
> > >                 Total Requests: 2
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Does this help understand the problem?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Rishi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Rishi
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Julian Field" <jkf at ECS.SOTON.AC.UK>
> > > > >To: <MAILSCANNER at JISCMAIL.AC.UK>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: Need help badly...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > At 10:02 21/05/2002, you wrote:
> > > > > > >I have about 1400 odd messages on Cobalt RaQ4 Linux mail server
>in
> > >the
> > > > > > >/var/spool/mqueue folder (actually /home/spool/mqueue folder)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -rw-------   1 root     root         2223 May 21 13:37
> > >qfg4L87BW05113
> > > > > > > > -rw-------   1 root     root          840 May 21 13:37
> > >qfg4L87TW05151
> > > > > > > > -rw-------   1 root     root          859 May 21 13:38
> > >qfg4L88cW05223
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I have stopped mailscanner and started sendmail. My mail is now
> > >working,
> > > > >but
> > > > > > >I wanted to know how to
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If they are all in mqueue and not mqueue.in then MailScanner is
> > >basically
> > > > > > doing its job. I suspect you might not have any processes like
> > >"sendmail
> > > > > > -q15m" running perhaps?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >1. get mailscanner to work... find out why it is not working.(how
> > >does
> > > > >one
> > > > > > >debug?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Watch the syslog.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >2. get all these undelivered messages .... delivered.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sendmail -q
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Julian Field                Teaching Systems Manager
> > > > > > jkf at ecs.soton.ac.uk         Dept. of Electronics & Computer
>Science
> > > > > > Tel. 023 8059 2817          University of Southampton
> > > > > >                              Southampton SO17 1BJ
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Julian Field                Teaching Systems Manager
> > > > jkf at ecs.soton.ac.uk         Dept. of Electronics & Computer Science
> > > > Tel. 023 8059 2817          University of Southampton
> > > >                              Southampton SO17 1BJ
> >
> > --
> > Julian Field                Teaching Systems Manager
> > jkf at ecs.soton.ac.uk         Dept. of Electronics & Computer Science
> > Tel. 023 8059 2817          University of Southampton
> >                              Southampton SO17 1BJ

--
Julian Field                Teaching Systems Manager
jkf at ecs.soton.ac.uk         Dept. of Electronics & Computer Science
Tel. 023 8059 2817          University of Southampton
                             Southampton SO17 1BJ



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