<html><body><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi guys,<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>After digging much much more deeper..... the problem was caused by a DNS timeout<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>The weird thing was that running spamassassin with no config file I got a SPF_PASS but with in the configuration file "envelope_sender_header" set to something I got a dns timeout<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Solution was to install a local dns caching server on the mailserver.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I would suggest that in the instructions how to install MailScanner installing a  <!--StartFragment--> local dns caching server <!--EndFragment-->is included<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__"><div>Met vriendelijke groet, Best regards,</div><div><br></div><div><br style="font-family:'helvetica'"><span style="font-family:'helvetica'">Thom van der Boon</span><br style="font-family:'helvetica'"><span style="font-family:'helvetica'">E-Mail: thom@vdb.nl</span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><b>Van: </b>"Shawn Iverson" <shawniverson@summitgrid.com><br><b>Aan: </b>"Thom van der Boon" <thom@vdb.nl>, "MailScanner Discussion" <mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info><br><b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 24 juli 2020 13:33:33<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: mails with valid SPF sender don't get marked SPF_PASS<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><p><tt>You need to merge those two into just spamassassin.conf and
        ditch spam.assassin.prefs.conf.</tt><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/24/20 7:32 AM, Thom van der Boon
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        <div>MailScanner 5.3.3<br>
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        <div>root@mail:/etc/MailScanner# ls -l<br>
          total 888<br>
          (...)<br>
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        <div>-rw-r--r-- 1 root    root     11404 Apr 30  2019
          spamassassin.conf<br>
          -rw-r--r-- 1 root    root      1870 Jul 24 08:48
          spam.assassin.prefs.conf<br>
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        <div>(...)<br>
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          <div>Met vriendelijke groet, Best regards,</div>
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            <span style="font-family:'helvetica'">Thom van der Boon</span><br style="font-family:'helvetica'">
            <span style="font-family:'helvetica'">E-Mail: <a href="mailto:thom@vdb.nl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">thom@vdb.nl</a></span><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div>
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        <div><b>Van: </b>"MailScanner
          Discussion" <a href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info></a><br>
          <b>Aan: </b>"MailScanner Discussion"
          <a href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info></a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"Shawn Iverson"
          <a href="mailto:shawniverson@summitgrid.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer"><shawniverson@summitgrid.com></a><br>
          <b>Verzonden: </b>Vrijdag 24 juli 2020 13:24:23<br>
          <b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: mails with valid SPF sender don't get
          marked SPF_PASS<br>
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          <p><tt>What version of MailScanner do you have?</tt></p>
          <p><tt>And out of curiosity, do you have the following both
              present?</tt></p>
          <p><tt>/etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf</tt></p>
          <p><tt>/etc/MailScanner/spamassassin.conf<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/24/20 3:02 AM, Thom van der
            Boon wrote:<br>
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              <div>Mark,<br>
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              <div>It is a MailScanner issue (I think)<br>
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              <div>When I run the message through SA directly by the
                following command: </div>
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              <div>spamassassin -t -p
                /etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf <
                message.txt<br>
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              <div>I get a SPF_PASS<br>
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              <div> pts rule name              description<br>
                ---- ----------------------
                --------------------------------------------------<br>
                 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4      RBL: Very Good reputation
                (+4)<br>
                                            [185.201.16.36 listed in
                wl.mailspike.net]<br>
                -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE     RBL: Sender listed at <a href="https://www.dnswl.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dnswl.org/</a>,<br>
                                             no trust<br>
                                            [185.201.16.36 listed in
                list.dnswl.org]<br>
                -1.9 BAYES_00               BODY: Bayes spam probability
                is 0 to 1%<br>
                                            [score: 0.0000]<br>
                 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE          SPF: HELO does not publish
                an SPF Record<br>
                -0.0 SPF_PASS               SPF: sender matches SPF
                record<br>
                 0.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY         BODY: Message only has
                text/html MIME parts<br>
                 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE           BODY: HTML included in
                message<br>
                 0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL      Mailspike good senders<br>
                 0.0 KAM_DMARC_STATUS       Test Rule for DKIM or SPF
                Failure with Strict<br>
                                            Alignment<br>
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              <div>but as stated before; the "live" message that went
                through my mailscanner<br>
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                <pre>X-vdbeu-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached,
        score=-1.786, required 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00,
        KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01, MIME_HTML_ONLY 0.10, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.00,
        RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4 0.00, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL 0.00, SPF_HELO_NONE 0.00)</pre>
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              <div>So, I don't get it<br>
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              <div>MailScanner --link reports nothing weird<br>
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                <div>Met vriendelijke groet, Best regards,</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div><br style="font-family:'helvetica'">
                  <span style="font-family:'helvetica'">Thom van der
                    Boon</span><br style="font-family:'helvetica'">
                  <span style="font-family:'helvetica'">E-Mail: <a href="mailto:thom@vdb.nl" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">thom@vdb.nl</a></span><br>
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              <div><b>Van: </b>"Mark Sapiro" <a href="mailto:mark@msapiro.net" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><mark@msapiro.net></a><br>
                <b>Aan: </b>"MailScanner Discussion" <a href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info></a><br>
                <b>Verzonden: </b>Donderdag 23 juli 2020 22:38:17<br>
                <b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: mails with valid SPF sender don't
                get marked SPF_PASS<br>
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              <div>On 7/23/20 1:39 AM, Thom van der Boon wrote:<br>
                > Hi guys,<br>
                > <br>
                > I have something weird. Most mails with valid SPF
                record are marked<br>
                > correctly (SPF_FAIL or SPF_PASS), but I see some
                messages which should<br>
                > be marked as SPF_PASS get no SPF_PASS<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                Assuming you are talking about the SPF_PASS rule in the
                SpamAssassin<br>
                report in the X-vdbeu-MailScanner-SpamCheck: header,
                this is a<br>
                SpamAssassin question, not a MailScanner question per
                se. You might do<br>
                better on a SpamAssassin list. See<br>
                <a href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPAMASSASSIN/MailingLists" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPAMASSASSIN/MailingLists></a>.<br>
                <br>
                -- <br>
                Mark Sapiro <a href="mailto:mark@msapiro.net" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><mark@msapiro.net></a>  
                     The highway is for gamblers,<br>
                San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your
                sense - B. Dylan<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                -- <br>
                MailScanner mailing list<br>
                <a href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info</a><br>
                <a href="http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner</a><br>
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            Shawn Iverson<br>
            <a href="mailto:shawniverson@summitgrid.com" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">shawniverson@summitgrid.com</a><br>
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          -- <br>
          MailScanner mailing list<br>
          <a href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info</a><br>
          <a href="http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner</a><br>
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      Shawn Iverson<br>
      <a href="mailto:shawniverson@summitgrid.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">shawniverson@summitgrid.com</a><br>
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