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    This is probably not the answer you're looking for, but we have been
    a Red Hat and later Centos house for over 20 years.<br>
    <br>
    We started a mass migration to Ubuntu 1604 LTS earlier this year and
    have to say we would never go back to Centos or RedHat now.<br>
    <br>
    It is completely backward and version limited compared to Ubuntu,
    and the Yum/RPM configuration is simply archaic compared to "apt".<br>
    <br>
    The management of SystemD and backwards compatibility with system V
    scripts on Centos7/Redhat 7 is botched at best.<br>
    <br>
    My only regret is that we didn't dump Redhat/centos earlier.<br>
    <br>
    You also need to consider that RedHat bought out all the Centos core
    developers and its owned/funded by RedHat now so there is a
    commercial incentive to make it an inferior product now to entice
    people to move to RHEL.  There is also no upgrade path on Centos or
    RedHat between major version revisions so you have to re-install
    which is a massive "ball-ache" to say the least.  This is done
    because RedHat market and sell their support based on Major
    revisions and allowing an upgrade mechanism between say Centos 6 and
    Centos 7 would scupper that revenue stream.<br>
    <br>
    And the final point, RedHat just feels a bit basic, primitive and
    rubbish after using Ubuntu.<br>
    <br>
    So take the plunge, yo won't regret it!<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/07/2017 10:16, Randal, Phil
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            see that Shawn Iverson has published MailScanner 5.0.6-2 on
            GitHub.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">When
            can we expect to see updated install packages on
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.mailscanner.info">www.mailscanner.info</a>?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
            lang="EN-US"> MailScanner
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces+phil.randal=hoopleltd.co.uk@lists.mailscanner.info">mailto:mailscanner-bounces+phil.randal=hoopleltd.co.uk@lists.mailscanner.info</a>]<b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Shawn Iverson<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> 14 July 2017 00:23<br>
            <b>To:</b> MailScanner Discussion
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info"><mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info></a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: Upgrade to CentOS 7.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">pushing this and other tasks to the
            weekend, will keep you posted...<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Shawn
              Iverson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:iversons@rushville.k12.in.us"
                target="_blank">iversons@rushville.k12.in.us</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Jerry,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Sounds great, let me get to work
                    on this.  ETA will probably be tomorrow, getting
                    late here...<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:52 PM,
                    Jerry Benton <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:jerry.benton@mailborder.com"
                      target="_blank">jerry.benton@mailborder.com</a>>
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I
                      recently switched development environments and
                      have yet to spin up the servers to build the DEB
                      and RPM packages. If anyone has is already setup
                      to build out some release packages (i.e. Shawn), I
                      will happily post those for download on the
                      MailScanner website. Just make sure you give me a
                      chance to update build versions in GitHub. I would
                      also need a changelog.<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      --<br>
                      Jerry Benton<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.mailborder.com" target="_blank">www.mailborder.com</a><br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:%2B1%20%20%20%28843%29%20800-8605"
                        target="_blank">+1 (843) 800-8605</a><br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:%2B44%20%28020%29%203883-8605"
                        target="_blank">+44 (020) 3883-8605</a><br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      -----Original Message-----<br>
                      From: MailScanner [mailto:<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces%2Bjerry.benton"
                        target="_blank">mailscanner-bounces+jerry.benton</a>=<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mailborder.com@lists.mailscanner.info"
                        target="_blank">mailborder.com@lists.mailscanner.info</a>]
                      On Behalf Of Paul Scott<br>
                      Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:14 PM<br>
                      To: MailScanner Discussion <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info"
                        target="_blank">mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info</a>><br>
                      Subject: RE: Upgrade to CentOS 7.0<br>
                      <br>
                      I am wondering the same thing.  Have my system up
                      and running, but have not received word yet with
                      the proper MailScanner version to install.<br>
                      <br>
                      Sincerely,<br>
                      <br>
                      Paul Scott, Engineer<br>
                      Eden USA, Incorporated<br>
                      Event Production Services Since 1995<br>
                      Los Angeles-Las Vegas-New York<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:sales@edenusa.com" target="_blank">sales@edenusa.com</a>
                      OR <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:edenusasales@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">
                        edenusasales@gmail.com</a><br>
                      Telephone(s): <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:866.501.3336" target="_blank">866.501.3336</a>
                      OR <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:951.505.6967" target="_blank">
                        951.505.6967</a><br>
                      Fax: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:866.502.3336" target="_blank">866.502.3336</a><br>
                      <br>
                      WEBSITE: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://www.edenusa.com" target="_blank">https://www.edenusa.com</a><br>
                      FACEBOOK: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.facebook.com/edenusainc"
                        target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/edenusainc</a><br>
                      <br>
                      -----Original Message-----<br>
                      From: MailScanner [mailto:<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces%2Bsales"
                        target="_blank">mailscanner-bounces+sales</a>=<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:edenusa.com@lists.mailscanner.info"
                        target="_blank">edenusa.com@lists.mailscanner.info</a>]
                      On Behalf Of Remco Barendse<br>
                      Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 1:52 AM<br>
                      To: MailScanner Discussion <<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info"
                        target="_blank">mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info</a>><br>
                      Subject: Re: Upgrade to CentOS 7.0<br>
                      <br>
                      Is the update available somewhere? I am on the
                      same path of having to upgrade, while I am testing
                      I might as well test the new systemd enhats (would
                      be a pity to start off with Centos6 now)  now) :)<br>
                      <br>
                      Thanks!<br>
                      <br>
                      On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Shawn Iverson wrote:<br>
                      <br>
                      > Jerry,<br>
                      > Yes.  There's a little bug in the SUSE
                      installer, but it was already<br>
                      > present prior to the changes.  Just a missing
                      perl module that should be installed when running
                      install.sh.  I have an issue open for it.  With a
                      little time I should be able to resolve it for
                      you.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > Feel free to test further, or if desired, let
                      me know and I'll run another round of testing.  I
                      have run successful tests on CentOS, Fedora,
                      Ubuntu, and SUSE.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > As near as I can tell, sendmail already runs
                      in split mode on non-Redhat based systems.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Jerry Benton
                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:jerry.benton@mailborder.com"
                        target="_blank">jerry.benton@mailborder.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      >       This might be a crazy question ... Are
                      you updates done for all<br>
                      > of the changes you were making? I have not
                      tested them myself.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > -- Jerry Benton <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.mailborder.com" target="_blank">www.mailborder.com</a><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Shawn
                      Iverson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:iversons@rushville.k12.in.us"
                        target="_blank">iversons@rushville.k12.in.us</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      >       Paul,<br>
                      > Wait for Mr. Benton to release the next
                      update.  It will contain systemd enhancements for
                      sendmail and mailscanner.<br>
                      ><br>
                      > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Paul Scott
                      <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:sales@edenusa.com" target="_blank">sales@edenusa.com</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
                      ><br>
                      >       I am planning on upgrading our Sendmail
                      server to CentOS 7.0, and am wondering if there
                      any hints from you guys, on what to expect, or
                      what difficulties I may run into, etc.  This will
                      be a brand-new fresh<br>
                      >       install on all new hardware, then
                      install MailScanner and migrate our mailboxes
                      over.  Please let me know.  Thank you so much!<br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      >       Sincerely,<br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      >       Paul Scott, Engineer<br>
                      ><br>
                      >       Eden USA, Incorporated<br>
                      >       Event Production Services Since 1995<br>
                      >       Los Angeles-Las Vegas-New York<br>
                      >       <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:sales@edenusa.com" target="_blank">sales@edenusa.com</a>
                      OR
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:edenusasales@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">edenusasales@gmail.com</a><br>
                      >       Telephone(s): <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:866.501.3336"
                        target="_blank">866.501.3336</a> OR
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:951.505.6967"
                        target="_blank">951.505.6967</a><br>
                      >       Fax: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:866.502.3336" target="_blank">866.502.3336</a><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      >       WEBSITE: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://www.edenusa.com" target="_blank">https://www.edenusa.com</a><br>
                      ><br>
                      >       FACEBOOK: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://www.facebook.com/edenusainc"
                        target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/edenusainc</a><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      > --<br>
                      > MailScanner mailing list<br>
                      > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info"
                        target="_blank">mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info</a><br>
                      > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner"
                        target="_blank">
http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner</a><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      ><br>
                      > --<br>
                      > Shawn Iverson, CETLDirector of Technology
                      Rush County Schools<br>
                      > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="tel:765-932-3901%20x271" target="_blank">765-932-3901
                        x271</a><br>
                      > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:iversons@rushville.k12.in.us"
                        target="_blank">iversons@rushville.k12.in.us</a><br>
                      ><br>
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                                          style="color:#888888">Director
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                                            target="_blank">iversons@rushville.k12.in.us</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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