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I agree,<br>
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Packages are the way to go...<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18/09/2014 22:36, Glenn Steen wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Speaking as another +40 yo, with a (broad) unix/linux
background, tarballs are fine if you like to tinker, but there
is an element of "ease" that is highly compelling with "packaged
systems"... I like Ubuntu on my desktop, Suse on my virtual
apps and CentOS on my servers (at least... That's fairly easy to
get the PHB to agree to)... The alternatives, in my world, are
spelled windoze and bought appliances, not built from source
distros;-) <br>
That was all fine for... The early days of linux...:-) <br>
Having said that, everyone has their own reality... And using
MailScanner on for example CentoOS isn't a perfect fit when
things aren't in your favorite repos, the SA isn't new enough on
the latedt distro release etc... Hence this thread;-) </p>
<p dir="ltr">Some of the things Phil tipped me anout (pull 29/30)
seem to have been folded into the latest,so was less of a hassle
than expected. Had to resort to CPAN for a very limited set of
perl modules. Other than that, most things work ok, despite the
shift from SYSV-style init scripts to systemd (that was...
Interresting...:-). Working eith git/github turned out to be
somewhat akin to working with any source code revision and
control system, not that difficult, just a tad different;-).</p>
<p dir="ltr">For the past couple of weeks, in running production
on this setup (CentOS 7, standalone machine ( hp g7 IIRC, with
lots of RAM... Used to be an ESXi host)). Works like a charm!</p>
<p dir="ltr">Cheers!<br>
-- <br>
-- Glenn</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Den 15 sep 2014 02:29 skrev "Mogens
Melander" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mogens@fumlersoft.dk">mogens@fumlersoft.dk</a>>:<br
type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well,<br>
<br>
"Why did tarballs fall out of grace?" Sorry for the following
...<br>
<br>
When you delegate all the difficult stuff to the maintainers,<br>
of whatever OS you're running on your hardware, so you can<br>
focus on doing, whatever you wanted your software to do.<br>
<br>
Me, I'm on slackware variants, and nobody supports that, so I<br>
have to change/patch all those packages going out to you<br>
lazy guys, expecting software coming updated, specially for<br>
your choice of hardware/OS combination.<br>
<br>
Pretty much all important software, running on my servers, I<br>
have made build scripts, to compile compliant install
packages,<br>
to install in the tool chain. Zenwalk not being maintained<br>
anymore, I'm moving my servers to Salix, going back to where<br>
I started. Slackware. There is no possible way to upgrade<br>
my old server/kernel with out sending someone to do it hands
on.<br>
<br>
So, Zenwalk is out, and Slackware is back in.<br>
<br>
Basically, what I'm saying. I'm not alone, being older than
40,<br>
maintaining servers that has been running for more than 1780<br>
days, without a single reboot. Patches/upgrades are done
online,<br>
on running production systems.<br>
<br>
And that's why tarballs are not in grace. They are used by the<br>
original linux distributions.<br>
<br>
This is my personal thinking, after a long night of hard
drinking,<br>
just stumbling, noticing that lead comment:<br>
<br>
"Why did tarballs fall out of grace?"<br>
<br>
Peace.<br>
<br>
On Sun, September 14, 2014 21:13, Remco Barendse wrote:<br>
> So far, i did not manage to become friends with github
(yet?). Hope that<br>
> sometime there will be a small (maintained) website with
info on how to<br>
> pull the latest stable version from github and install
from that.<br>
><br>
> (Why did tarballs fall out of grace?)<br>
><br>
> Cheers!<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, 8 Aug 2014, Randal, Phil wrote:<br>
><br>
>> MailScanner - latest release plus updated updated
TNEF.pm from Git<br>
>> (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/pull/29"
target="_blank">https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/pull/29</a>)
and my phishing filter fix (<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/pull/30"
target="_blank">https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/pull/30</a>)<br>
>><br>
>> This patchset might be useful too, but I don't know
for sure:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/commit/0b59afc1dde177150331248179d64d12820512c8"
target="_blank">https://github.com/MailScanner/v4/commit/0b59afc1dde177150331248179d64d12820512c8</a><br>
>> (uses IO::Pipe instead of IO)<br>
>><br>
>> MailWatch - latest from Git (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/mailwatch/1.2.0" target="_blank">https://github.com/mailwatch/1.2.0</a>)<br>
>><br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> Phil<br>
>><br>
>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info">mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info">mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info</a>]
On Behalf Of Glenn<br>
>> Steen<br>
>> Sent: 08 August 2014 09:39<br>
>> To: MailScanner discussion<br>
>> Subject: Re: Has anyone tried MailScanner on CentOS
7?<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Phil,<br>
>><br>
>> As you may remember (or not), I used to use Mandriva
for my servers (up<br>
>> until the Mandriva/Mageia split), so this sounds ...
easy and<br>
>> straightforward:-). No mixing in CPAN when all else
fails;-).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 7 August 2014 22:08, Randal, Phil <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:phil.randal@hoopleltd.co.uk">phil.randal@hoopleltd.co.uk</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> OK, here’s a fuller list of what I did to get
MailScanner running on<br>
>>> CentOS 7<br>
>>><br>
>> (snip)<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers,<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Phil<br>
>>><br>
>> As said, this all seems quite straightforward, so ...
I'll do that<br>
>> then:-). Which MW install did you use?<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info">mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info</a><br>
>>> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info">mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info</a>]
On Behalf Of<br>
>>> Randal, Phil<br>
>>> Sent: 07 August 2014 16:22<br>
>>> To: MailScanner discussion<br>
>>> Subject: RE: Has anyone tried MailScanner on
CentOS 7?<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> No,<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I didn’t try them.<br>
>>><br>
>> Ok, some fun and games to look forward to then:-).<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>> (snip)><br>
>>><br>
>>> Only gotcha I had was forgetting to ensure that
/etc/hosts had a<br>
>>> correct entry for the host in it. They joys of
cloning VMs and<br>
>>> forgetting the little details.<br>
>>><br>
>> Isn't it a bitch, progress:-):-). Do you use any
prebuilt VM, or rolled<br>
>> your own?<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Phil<br>
<br>
--<br>
Mogens Melander<br>
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