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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In
short, if you must use it then only use it for recipient address verification.
I.e. only accept email you can deliver to a valid mailbox and make sure you don’t
have any catchalls on domains.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jason<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mail
Admin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2009 17:42<br>
<b>To:</b> 'MailScanner discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Sender Address Verification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for your
comments. I will search the list and review the way I use it and re-think my
strategy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info
[mailto:mailscanner-bounces@lists.mailscanner.info] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hostmaster<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2009 16:35<br>
<b>To:</b> MailScanner discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Sender Address Verification<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span
lang=EN-IE>I recently deployed the smf-sav, which works quite well. It takes a
lot of load off mailscanner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span
lang=EN-IE>I recently got listed on backscatter because I have used it on one
of “their” members so it seems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span
lang=EN-IE>Looking on their Web Site it seems there is nothing I can do only
pay them 50 euro to get delisted, and then what happens if I do <span
style='color:#1F497D'>></span>sav again?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span
lang=EN-IE>Have any of the list had this issue, with smf-sav? Is there
anything that can be done from your experience? I do not want to turn <span
style='color:#1F497D'>></span>off smf-sav.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span
lang=EN-IE>Thanks to you all<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>I am assuming you
mean you have been listed at backscatterer.org...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>I must admit that I
find something particularly distasteful about being on the receiving end of
sender validation lookups, especially considering that some of our servers
receive email for domains which they do not send email for. In my opinion,
nobody should rely on someone else’s resources (memory and CPU time) to work
out if they should accept an email, and I guess that the Backscatter blacklist
was built on this basis – their sender callout policy is here - <a
href="http://www.backscatterer.org/?target=sendercallouts">http://www.backscatterer.org/?target=sendercallouts</a>
and I have to say that I agree with all points.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>I am pretty sure that
this has been discussed on-list before and that some people have very strong
feelings in both ways regarding callouts, so it might be worth searching the
list archives for further info on the subject.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Best Regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'>Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-IE style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span lang=EN-IE> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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