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<DIV>It that is true, then why aren't the SA scores a constant value?&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV>Here are the reports from 3 recently received messages:</DIV>
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<DIV><TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=YES>&nbsp;Y&nbsp;</SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;Action(s): store, deliver, header, "X-Spam-Status:, Yes"</TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">High Scoring Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Listed in RBL:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;Y&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Whitelisted:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Blacklisted:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Autolearn:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Score:</TD><TD class=detail>1.77</TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Report:</TD><TD class=detail>spam, SBL+XBL</DIV>
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<DIV><TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=YES>&nbsp;Y&nbsp;</SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;Action(s): store, deliver, header, "X-Spam-Status:, Yes"</TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">High Scoring Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Listed in RBL:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;Y&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Whitelisted:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Blacklisted:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Autolearn:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Score:</TD><TD class=detail>0.92</TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Report:</TD><TD class=detail>spam, SBL+XBL</DIV>
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<DIV></TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=YES>&nbsp;Y&nbsp;</SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;Action(s): store, deliver, header, "X-Spam-Status:, Yes"</TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">High Scoring Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Spam:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Listed in RBL:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;Y&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Whitelisted:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Blacklisted:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Autolearn:</TD><TD class=detail><SPAN class=NO>&nbsp;N&nbsp;</SPAN></TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">SpamAssassin Score:</TD><TD class=detail>3.09</TD></TR> <TR><TD class=heading align="right" width="175" valign="top">Spam Report:</TD><TD class=detail>spam, SBL+XBL</DIV>
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<DIV></TD></TR>Notice that each of these messages have isspam = 1 and isrblspam = 1, ishighspam = 0 &amp; issaspam = 0 but each have a different SA score.&nbsp; My point is something is assigning a value to the SA score but nothing besides "spam, {RBL Listed} is being reported.</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Gary<BR><BR>&gt;&gt;&gt; Martin Hepworth &lt;maxsec@gmail.com&gt; 6/26/2009 12:38 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>2009/6/26 Gary Faith &lt;gafaith@asdm.net&gt;:<BR>&gt; Julian,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Better.&nbsp; The spam report field is populated now but I don't think it is<BR>&gt; completely fixed.&nbsp; See below:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Spam: Y&nbsp;&nbsp; Action(s): store, deliver, header, "X-Spam-Status:, Yes"<BR>&gt; High Scoring Spam: N<BR>&gt; SpamAssassin Spam: N<BR>&gt; Listed in RBL: Y<BR>&gt; Spam Whitelisted: N<BR>&gt; Spam Blacklisted: N<BR>&gt; SpamAssassin Autolearn: N<BR>&gt; SpamAssassin Score: 3.09<BR>&gt; Spam Report: spam, SBL+XBL<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I confirmed that the database shows spam, SBL+XBL only.&nbsp; Problem that I see<BR>&gt; is that there is nothing in the spamreport field to explain the 3.09<BR>&gt; SpamAssassin score.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Gary<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Julian Field &lt;MailScanner@ecs.soton.ac.uk&gt; 6/26/2009 4:41 AM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; Aha, well done for tracking down that case, I've been looking for that<BR>&gt; bug for ages.<BR>&gt; Due to your diagnostics I now have what should fix it.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Please try the attached patch to<BR>&gt; /usr/lib/MailScanner/MailScanner/Message.pm and then restart MailScanner.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks for helping!<BR>&gt; Jules.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; On 26/06/2009 05:08, Gary Faith wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; Follow Up!&nbsp; After doing more digging, I believe that I have found the<BR>&gt;&gt; common thread when the problem occurs.&nbsp; The spamreport field only<BR>&gt;&gt; seems to be blank when isspam &amp; isrblspam flags are set.&nbsp; If issaspam<BR>&gt;&gt; and/or ishighspam are set then spamreport has data.<BR>&gt;&gt; isspam&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; tinyint(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =1<BR>&gt;&gt; ishighspam&nbsp; tinyint(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0<BR>&gt;&gt; issaspam&nbsp; tinyint(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0<BR>&gt;&gt; isrblspam&nbsp; tinyint(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =1<BR>&gt;&gt; spamwhitelisted&nbsp; tinyint(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0<BR>&gt;&gt; spamblacklisted&nbsp; tinyint(1)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =0<BR>&gt;&gt; sascore&nbsp; decimal(7,2)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; some value<BR>&gt;&gt; spamreport&nbsp; text&nbsp;&nbsp; {Empty}<BR>&gt;&gt; I hope this helps shine light on my problem.&nbsp; Any ideas why this is<BR>&gt;&gt; happening?<BR>&gt;&gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Gary<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; "Gary Faith" &lt;gafaith@asdm.net&gt; 6/25/2009 11:14 PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Running MailScanner 4.75.11 on SLES 10 SP2 X86_64.&nbsp; When viewing the<BR>&gt;&gt; information via MailWatch, I see the following on the details page:<BR>&gt;&gt; SpamAssassin Spam: Y&nbsp;&nbsp; Action(s): store, deliver, header,<BR>&gt;&gt; "X-Spam-Status:, Yes"<BR>&gt;&gt; High Scoring Spam: N<BR>&gt;&gt; SpamAssassin Spam: N<BR>&gt;&gt; Listed in RBL: N<BR>&gt;&gt; Spam Whitelisted: N<BR>&gt;&gt; Spam Blacklisted: N<BR>&gt;&gt; SpamAssassin Autolearn: N<BR>&gt;&gt; SpamAssassin Score:1.66<BR>&gt;&gt; The problem is Spam Report is blank.&nbsp; This happens on a few seemingly<BR>&gt;&gt; random messages while most have something in the spamreport field.&nbsp; I<BR>&gt;&gt; have verified this in the database that it definitely null.&nbsp; Any<BR>&gt;&gt; reason why all the data except the spam report would be logged to<BR>&gt;&gt; mysql?&nbsp; Could this be a spamassassin timeout problem?<BR>&gt;&gt; Thanks,<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt; Gary Faith<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Jules<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; Julian Field MEng CITP CEng<BR>&gt; www.MailScanner.info<BR>&gt; Buy the MailScanner book at www.MailScanner.info/store<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Need help customising MailScanner?<BR>&gt; Contact me!<BR>&gt; Need help fixing or optimising your systems?<BR>&gt; Contact me!<BR>&gt; Need help getting you started solving new requirements from your boss?<BR>&gt; Contact me!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; PGP footprint: EE81 D763 3DB0 0BFD E1DC 7222 11F6 5947 1415 B654<BR>&gt; Follow me at twitter.com/JulesFM and twitter.com/MailScanner<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; This message has been scanned for viruses and<BR>&gt; dangerous content by MailScanner, and is<BR>&gt; believed to be clean.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --<BR>&gt; MailScanner mailing list<BR>&gt; mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info<BR>&gt; <A href="http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner">http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner</A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Before posting, read <A href="http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting">http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting</A><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR><BR>It's listing this as spam as mailScanner is using the SBL+XBL RBL as a<BR>definite source of spam. ie MailScanner is calling the RBL (not<BR>spamassassin) and is it therefor saying it's spam.<BR><BR>Spamassassin is saying it's only scoring 3.09 which isn;t enough for<BR>SA to classify this as spam as far as SA is concerned.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Martin Hepworth<BR>Oxford, UK<BR>--<BR>MailScanner mailing list<BR>mailscanner@lists.mailscanner.info<BR><A href="http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner">http://lists.mailscanner.info/mailman/listinfo/mailscanner</A><BR><BR>Before posting, read <A href="http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting">http://wiki.mailscanner.info/posting</A><BR><BR>Support MailScanner development - buy the book off the website!<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>